Question on Noah's Ark

[miknik5]

No, it is a matter of genetic variation - in this case, the lack thereof.

And in a population of 8, you have a maximum of 8 variations.



Your premise is false. There's no such thing as "compromised" or "pure" genes when considering healthy people. Let's assume the 8 survivors were the fittest of the fittest. It doesn't matter. There are only 8, which isn't enough to sustain a population.




Because inbreed.



It doesn't matter when we first "hear" about something.
What matters is the evidence.

Please explain to me what antiDNAse is and why and how it presents itself in physically healthy looking people who do not present any form or symptom of any disease

Thanks

 

[Armoured]

Please explain to me what antiDNAse is and why and how it presents itself in physically healthy looking people who do not present any form or symptom of any disease

Thanks

*sigh*

 

[miknik5]

Genetics does. It's not really that complicated.

There are plenty of genes that, if you have 1 copy of, are good for you, if you have 2 copies of, will kill you. You get 1 or two copies depending n what your parents had and a dose of chance. It's not an issue of "gene purity".

It's also much inbreed. Too much.

Sorry about that I don't like it much either but when one is pure and in GOD's sovereign purpose, well who can argue with the GOODNESS of GOD?

 

[Armoured]

Sorry about that I don't like it much either but when one is pure and in GOD's sovereign purpose, well who can argue with the GOODNESS of GOD?

No one's arguing with "the GOODNESS of GOD", although the Flood story does raise certain difficult questions... the point is that there is no such thing as "pure genes" the way you seem to mean

 

[miknik5]

You can also just not say it, which would result in not having to invoke magic to explain the evidence of reality.

Not having a need to invoke magic, seems like a more rational position.

magic?

I'm not discussing magic nor would I ever discuss or attribute anything to magic

I will attribute it to its source based on knowing the difference between GOOD and evil

 

[miknik5]

No one's arguing with "the GOODNESS of GOD", although the Flood story does raise certain difficult questions... the point is that there is no such thing as "pure genes" the way you seem to mean

There is such a thing as the purer genes to express themselves

And are we the ones who are able to dictate what genes we want expressed?

 

[miknik5]

Genetics does. It's not really that complicated.

There are plenty of genes that, if you have 1 copy of, are good for you, if you have 2 copies of, will kill you. You get 1 or two copies depending n what your parents had and a dose of chance. It's not an issue of "gene purity".

Genetics is sovereign over GOD?
There are the capablilities of defects in every individual but for the GRACE of GOD, not always are the defects expressed

 

[Armoured]

Because you can't explain it
Please, I would. Wr

Anti-DNase testing is an antibody analysis to test for exposure to streptococcus, typically a standard titre test peaks about 4-6 weeks after a infection, iirc.

Hows that?

 

[miknik5]

We've found 1.7 million year old humanoid bones with traces of cancer.

Yes? I realize that could be

Again all of us have the ability to present for issues but for the GRACE of GOD not all will

 

[Armoured]

There is such a thing as the purer genes to express themselves

there really isn't. Genes are genes. There aren't purer ones and less pure ones. There's just... genes.

And are we the ones who are able to dictate what genes we want expressed?

... no.

 

[miknik5]

Anti-DNase testing is an antibody analysis to test for exposure to streptococcus, typically a standard titre test peaks about 4-6 weeks after a infection, iirc.

Hows that?

Why do others with infections use it as markers for other infections besides strept?

Have a test sir and you will find that your titres are high

And those titres don't necessarily point to strept

Do you want to know why your titres are high? Because none of us live in a "pure" environment

You're apparently not a doctor

 

[miknik5]

there really isn't. Genes are genes. There aren't purer ones and less pure ones. There's just... genes. ... no.

No sir
Thst isn't true
If it were true there would be no need for genetic testing because of defects which present themselves and/or could present themselves in future offspring

 

[Armoured]

Why do others with infections use it as markers for other infections besides strept?

Have a test sir and you will find that your titres are high

And those titres don't necessarily point to strept

You're apparently not a doctor

I never claimed to be a doctor. I am a nurse though. Not sure what you're trying to say, though. Yes, if you have a positive antiDNase, that indicates streptococcus, what else are you talking about?

 

[miknik5]

You continue to repeat this. You think you are making some kind of home run poin there, but in reality all you are doing is exposing your ignorance on genetics.

The only thing you could possibly mean by "pure DNA" which actually makes sense in context of genetics, is something like "healthy dna". The DNA of one of the individuals that would come out on top in the fitness test.

You need to really understand something here, though....
This is about the lack of variation, not about the fitness of those individuals.

So let's assume that those 8 people had like, uber-DNA. The strongest and healthiest DNA of all humans, ever. The fittest of the fittest, if you will.

It makes no difference - there are still only 8 of them and the males are even all a father with his sons.

The males are even all a father with his sons?

What?

 

[Armoured]

No sir
Thst isn't true

yes it is

If it were true there would be no need for genetic testing because of defects which present themselves and/or could present themselves in future offspring

defects don't come from "gene impurity"

And as mentioned, many of the genes that cause congenital defects give benefits if you only have one copy, but are only problematic with two copies. The sickle cell anaemia gene is the text book example. Have 2 copes, die of sickle cell anaemia. Have one copy, get immunity to malaria.

I myself am a carrier of a similar case gene. I have one copy of the Leiden V gene, which makes my blood clot more rapidly in the case of cuts and trauma. I could literally survive injures that would kill other people because of this gene condition. Two copies of the gene leaves you prone to strokes and thrombosis. It's not matter of "gene purity".

 

[Armoured]

The males are even all a father with his sons?

What?

All the males are the sons of the one guy=extreme lack of genetic diversity

 

[miknik5]

im going to say one thing

When 2 Thessalonians 2 does occur, you will have to rethink your position and hopefully come to the revelation that it was GOD's GRACE alone which kept us from being totally destroyed

 

[Armoured]

im going to say one thing

When 2 Thessalonians 2 does occur, you will have to rethink your position and hopefully come to the revelation that it was GOD's GRACE alone which kept us from being totally destroyed

That's nice. Doesn't really change the way basic genetics works.

 

[miknik5]

Because all the things which we have long held to as long held stable truths, will no longer hold

 

[miknik5]

That's nice. Doesn't really change the way basic genetics works.

Yes. I'm sorry. It will

It will be a very profound turn around for the Naamans and Gehazzis of the world

What is lacking inwardly in the gehazzi's will be manifested outwardly.

I'm sorry