Why isn't it daytime everywhere on earth if the earth is flat? Once it comes up over the horizon, it should be shedding light on all of the earth at once, just at different angles.
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Question for Flat-Earthers
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Flat Earthers might say that it is daylight and night over the whole earth at the same time and when my Aussie friends claim they're sleeping when I'm having lunch it's all a clever prank and my friends are just actors playing me.
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Which makes no sense because the sun obviously touches (and sinks below) the horizon every day.
If it was a spotlight, the sun would never touch the horizon because it would always be high up in the sky. Some simple trigonometry:
If the Sun is 3000 miles above the flat Earth disc, then in order for the Sun to get within 5 degrees of the horizon from an observer on the disc, it needs to be more than 34000 miles away from the observer.
In order for the sun to touch the horizon, it has to be infinitely distant.
I have never understood the "spot light" argument.
Clearly, the sun touches the horizon every day. So either time zones don't exist or....
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Or MAYBE the flat earth is wobbling around like a top!Which makes no sense because the sun obviously touches (and sinks below) the horizon every day.
If it was a spotlight, the sun would never touch the horizon because it would always be high up in the sky. Some simple trigonometry:
If the Sun is 3000 miles above the flat Earth disc, then in order for the Sun to get within 5 degrees of the horizon from an observer on the disc, it needs to be more than 34000 miles away from the observer.
In order for the sun to touch the horizon, it has to be infinitely distant.
I have never understood the "spot light" argument.
Clearly, the sun touches the horizon every day. So either time zones don't exist or....
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This would be easy to model. Take a disc and a flashlight and try to replicate the results you postulate.
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leftrightleftrightleft
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Still doesn't make any sense.
If the sun goes below the horizon of a flat disc at one point, it goes behind the whole disc at all points.
Someone could say that topography could also block the sun from some parts of the disc...but it still leaves the fact that you can see the sun set over the ocean with no topography between you and the sun.
I think the only way for a Flat Earther to get around this problem is to claim that time zones don't exist and it is always light or always dark on the whole disc. This can be disproved with a simple road trip a few hundred kilometers east or west and a telephone call back home....or maybe all family and friends are in on the conspiracy too lol.
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We can only guess at what a flat earther would say. My guess:
If the Earth is flat then all astronomical bodies are flat.
If the Sun is a flat disk then its light must issue out in a beam.
A beam of light wider than the Earth would shed light on all of the Earth at once. This does not happen so the Sun tilts to create a spotlight effect.
But then we look at a "flat earth" web site (maybe a parody) and see a round Sun floating just above the Earth close enough for us to visit! The International Space Station at 250 miles altitude would never be in sunlight. If not a parody then it makes the flat earth idea literally insane.
If the Earth is flat then all astronomical bodies are flat.
If the Sun is a flat disk then its light must issue out in a beam.
A beam of light wider than the Earth would shed light on all of the Earth at once. This does not happen so the Sun tilts to create a spotlight effect.
But then we look at a "flat earth" web site (maybe a parody) and see a round Sun floating just above the Earth close enough for us to visit! The International Space Station at 250 miles altitude would never be in sunlight. If not a parody then it makes the flat earth idea literally insane.
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Flat Earthers do not believe in "simple trigonometry".Which makes no sense because the sun obviously touches (and sinks below) the horizon every day.
If it was a spotlight, the sun would never touch the horizon because it would always be high up in the sky. Some simple trigonometry:
If the Sun is 3000 miles above the flat Earth disc, then in order for the Sun to get within 5 degrees of the horizon from an observer on the disc, it needs to be more than 34000 miles away from the observer.
In order for the sun to touch the horizon, it has to be infinitely distant.
I have never understood the "spot light" argument.
Clearly, the sun touches the horizon every day. So either time zones don't exist or....
They like to cite ideas like "perspective" and "refraction" and "density" in their rants... but because they either don't understand these concepts, or reject them as "jesuite conspiracies", they don't bother with maths. Maths is for "sleeping sheeps". Maths is something that you are "indoctrinated" with.
I am reluctant to make statements about the intelligence level of Flat Earthers... but they are definitly the most willfully ignorant folks I have ever met... and I have talked to creationists for decades.
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Bizarrely, they deny that.
They don't do trigonometry.
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It's abundantly easy to show that the earth is round, rotates about an axis, and revolves around the sun with all the math, science, and technology available to us today--but it ultimately means nothing to someone whose response to anything that doesn't fit their narrative is "that's part of the conspiracy".
One can easily demonstrate that the earth is round and spins about its axis with nothing more than a Foucault pendulum.
It's not hard, it's abundantly easy--but the flat earther has a cognative dissonance that refuses to accept the most basic of basics.
-CryptoLutheran
One can easily demonstrate that the earth is round and spins about its axis with nothing more than a Foucault pendulum.
It's not hard, it's abundantly easy--but the flat earther has a cognative dissonance that refuses to accept the most basic of basics.
-CryptoLutheran
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