Dear PS, I'm happy to see that you recognize that Occam's Razor is on my side. Right? I can tell you the entire history of the Creation in a paragraph. Perhaps you are repeating things you're not sure of?
In Love,
Aman
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Dear PS, I'm happy to see that you recognize that Occam's Razor is on my side. Right? I can tell you the entire history of the Creation in a paragraph. Perhaps you are repeating things you're not sure of?
In Love,
Aman
PsychoSarah
Chaotic Neutral
Dear PS, I'm happy to see that you recognize that Occam's Razor is on my side. Right? I can tell you the entire history of the Creation in a paragraph. Perhaps you are repeating things you're not sure of?
In Love,
Aman
No, there is just a lot of material to cover. Perhaps the world isn't so simple that it could be explained in a paragraph
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Dear PS, You mind is like a Whip, sharp, and to the point. A fellow Christian, who agrees with me on most of what I post, asked me the same thing a few days ago, and reminded me that I had written that it could have been like the Rapture. In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, all Christians will be taken to the THIRD Heaven and we won't even need an Ark. Perhaps this is the way the first firmament was brought to our Planet.
I sometimes refer to the first firmament as an enclosed Biosphere, since it supported Human life, like our present Biosphere of Planet Earth, does today. It was also much smaller than our Cosmos, and being completely enclosed, means that it could be transported, anywhere into any body of water, God wanted it to be....even Lake Van in the mountains of Ararat.
Noticing this detail means that you are beginning to understand God's Truth, as it is actually written in Genesis. Your questions give away your intelligence/knowledge level in the SAME way God's intelligence is exposed in the first chapter of the Bible. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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PsychoSarah
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I just tend to remember interesting conversations well. Wouldn't it make more sense that Noah's world didn't move, that earth and that body of water were put created close enough that it would just sort of... sink? Sounds more gentle than whisking it around the universe.
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Dear PS, The problem is that Noah's world was first made. There was no water on our Planet, because the time Noah's world was made, was BEFORE the Big Bang. The ONLY water, at the time, was the water which came forth from the heaven or air, BEFORE the first Day. Gen 1:1-2
This means that the first firmament, Gen 1:6-8 made on the 2nd Day, could Not have been brought or sent to our Planet, until some Billions of years AFTER the first firmament was made. At some point in the Creation, the first Heaven or firmament, arrived or was placed in Lake Van, Turkey.
The evidence of this is that our Planet of Apes changed from animal to Human intelligence, when the firmament was clean dissolved in the Lake, releasing the Ark, which brought Adam's Human intelligence to our world. The Mystery is HOW long Adam's world had been in the Lake BEFORE the Flood?
Did it just arrive 10k years ago or had it been in the Lake for Millions of years? God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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I think you are misunderstanding what I was trying to explain. Here is what I was responding to:
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Do note the descriptions of Christian reasoning skills as being deliberately damaged and doubting the sanity of believers might go against this forum rule.
I am not a moderator and do not speak for them in the slightest but I have seen other posters say that these rules are enforced. It is your choice of what to post, I was just trying to give you a heads up.
I do not wish to get into apologetics and there are probably as many different answers to this question as there are theists.
For myself, the message of Jesus resonates with me while the others don't all that much. A simple answer but more than adequate for my needs.
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Genetics is smoking gun evidence for evolution. Genetics makes me doubt the Theory of Evolution about as much as seeing a child with strep throat makes me doubt Germ Theory.
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Two theories about where babies come from.
Theory 1: Sexual reproduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Theory 2:
Which one does Occam's razor support?
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Two theories about where babies come from.
Theory 1: Sexual reproduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Theory 2:
Which one does Occam's razor support?
Dear Valentine, Theory one, because all of the necessary events are NOT shown with your #2 Theory. It reminds me of the False ToE, since the Theory is based on InComplete, UnTrue, information, dreamed up by godless men, who reject God's Truth because they are afraid to face a righteous Judgment for their evil deeds. In the end, Jesus will show correct their false assumptions. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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mzungu
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Considering that Jesus said "No scripture is open to personal interpretation" and that I have not found anything in the Bible that supports your claims then suffice it to say I am forced to believe that you follow a religion other than any of the Abrahamic faiths. I have not heard anything similar to what you say. Just out of curiosity, what religion do you follow?
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Two theories about where babies come from.
Theory 1: Sexual reproduction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Theory 2:
Which one does Occam's razor support?
Don't forget Theory #3 that materialists believe in:
Babies come from 4.5 billion year old rocks.
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Subduction Zone
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Of course creationists are dishonest. What do you expect? All of the scientific evidence is against them. What creationist here actually debates the evidence? And you know what they call an honest creationist, don't you?
It seems that there are two routes creationists can take when it comes to debating evolution. They can either take the dishonesty route, and I include denying obvious evidence in that route. Or you can take the crazy route. We have both here at Christian Forums. What seems to really drive some of them off the deep end is the fact that worldwide more Christians accept evolution than reject it.
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A great question.
I think the weakest part of the theory stems from our ignorance of genetics and and developmental biology. Until the researchers in these fields have a better understanding of how genes and the environment interact to make an organism, then evolutionary biologists will lack a good general theory which underpins how change can go so far as to bring about all taxonomic classifications.
We have good evidence that this can occur:-
29+ evidences for macroevolution
- and we have bits and pieces of the mechanism, e.g. general mutations, recombination, gene duplication with associated subfunctionalization and neofunctionalisation, etc, as indicated by research such as this:-
Evolution of Hormone-Receptor Complexity by Molecular Exploitation
However, for the moment, thanks to ignorance in genetics and developmental biology, we lack a really good model for how evolution can be so powerful. Thanks to people like Darwin, we have the possible outline, but not the detail.
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Dear PS, Because it's 75 miles wide and some 1500 feet deep, and the largest Lake in the mountains of Ararat. It's been there for a million years and from the description of the destruction of the first world, it Fits the puzzle perfectly. It's an enclosed Lake, with a salt content which keeps all but one kind of fish out of it. Van was once the center of the Armenian Empire.
The world of Adam was "clean dissolved" Isaiah 24:19 showing that it was destroyed in water. Those who look for the Ark on top of mountains don't seem to know that. The story of the Raven and the Dove shows that the Ark was far from shore and then closer to shore, in one week. It explains WHY the Dove brought the olive tree leaf back to Noah. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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PsychoSarah
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I don't know, the raven and dove thing, I mean, they are birds, and ravens are more intelligent than doves. If there wasn't any land to perch on within sight, the raven wouldn't have strayed far from the ark.
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Dear mzungu, I'm a Christian, which means that God is inside me. Religion is man's attempt to know God. Christianity means you've been born again Spiritually, in Christ, eternally.
I agree that No scripture is of private interpretation and that is why I always try to support my understanding with one or two witnesses from the Old and New Testaments. The next verse, after the one you cited, is the Fact that holy men of old were moved by the Holy Spirit to proclaim God's Truth from inside them. 2Pe 1:20
If someone teaches a "private" interpretation which does NOT agree with that which the Holy Spirit tells us, in Scripture, it's easy to show that they are either Phonies, mistaken, or after your money. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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PsychoSarah
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I thought technically the Holy Spirit was inside all people, it was just that Christians supposedly had stuff revealed to them by it.
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Dear PS, The Raven and the Dove were released and the Raven did NOT return to the Ark. Gen 8:9 But the dove found no rest for the sole of her foot, and she returned unto him into the ark, for the waters were on the face of the whole earth: then he put forth his hand, and took her, and pulled her in unto him into the ark.
ONE week later:
Gen 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf pluckt off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.
The Ark was in the middle of a 75 mile wide Lake. The Raven flew to shore and didn't return to the Ark. The dove returned and ONE week later returned with an Olive leaf in it's mouth. The ONLY way this scenerio can be true is for the Ark to be upon a Lake, which drifted closer to land and the Dove plukt a leaf off an Olive Tree, on the Shore of the Lake.
That's because Olive Trees don't germinate, grow up, and put forth leaves, in ONE week, in the Mud, after a Flood. God Bless you.
In Love,
Aman
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