Question for evolutionist

[Tiberius]

I say to them, show me Biblically.

The attitude that "if it isn't in the Bible it doesn't exist" is ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything about robots, but there's millions of them building cars, computers, tvs and all sorts of things.

There is not multiple ways. The Bible is clear on that.

Proverbs 14:12
There is a way which SEEMETH right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

Then why are there so many different sects of Christianity around if there is only one clearly correct interpretation of the Bible? Anyway, it's all well and good for the Bible to say that there is only one way to interpret it correctly, but without a method of verifying interpretations, there's no way to recognise the correct one when we come across it.

According to verse 22-23 Some who claim to have known Jesus were deceived or believed in vain.

And yet those who were deceived or believed in vain still genuinely believed, just as you genuinely believe. So if a person can really truely believe that they have the truth and yet they are actually wrong, how can you verify that you are not in this same group?

How do you know that you aren't one of those people who really truely believes, but are actually wrong?

 

[Phred]

Phred, Do you believe in God?

I don't believe in God.
I don't believe in gods.
I don't believe in the supernatural.
I don't see any evidence for a god or gods.
I don't believe in devils either. Or angels.

 

[1611AV]

I don't believe in God.
I don't believe in gods.
I don't believe in the supernatural.
I don't see any evidence for a god or gods.
I don't believe in devils either. Or angels.

So you either believe that nothing can create something? Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end? Or?

I'll give you time to answer that.

 

[1611AV]

The attitude that "if it isn't in the Bible it doesn't exist" is ridiculous. The Bible doesn't say anything about robots, but there's millions of them building cars, computers, tvs and all sorts of things.

I never said that.

Then why are there so many different sects of Christianity around if there is only one clearly correct interpretation of the Bible? Anyway, it's all well and good for the Bible to say that there is only one way to interpret it correctly, but without a method of verifying interpretations, there's no way to recognise the correct one when we come across it.

They are not all Christians according to the Bible

And yet those who were deceived or believed in vain still genuinely believed, just as you genuinely believe. So if a person can really truely believe that they have the truth and yet they are actually wrong, how can you verify that you are not in this same group?

They did not believe according to the Bible

How do you know that you aren't one of those people who really truely believes, but are actually wrong?

Because the Bible tells us who they are.

 

[Phred]

So you either believe that nothing can create something? Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end? Or?

I'll give you time to answer that.

No, I don't believe that nothing can create something. Do you? I also don't believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning or end. Do you?

It seems that you're suggesting that these options are ... silly. Yet, by believing in God aren't you believing that it exists eternally with no beginning or end? Why is that viable? All you've done is taken the problems with the creation of the universe and the origins of life and moved them back one generation to a magic being that you then don't have to answer questions about. While I strive to understand how the universe began and what the Big Bang was all about you just dismiss all that and say, "Goddidit."

Either believe that nothing can create something? Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end? Or?

I'll sarcastically give you time to answer that since I'm quite certain I've cornered you now with my superior intelligence and wit.

 

[1611AV]

No, I don't believe that nothing can create something. Do you? I also don't believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning or end. Do you?

It seems that you're suggesting that these options are ... silly. Yet, by believing in God aren't you believing that it exists eternally with no beginning or end? Why is that viable? All you've done is taken the problems with the creation of the universe and the origins of life and moved them back one generation to a magic being that you then don't have to answer questions about. While I strive to understand how the universe began and what the Big Bang was all about you just dismiss all that and say, "Goddidit."

Either believe that nothing can create something? Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end? Or?

I'll sarcastically give you time to answer that since I'm quite certain I've cornered you now with my superior intelligence and wit.

So no answer then?

I do not believe these options to be silly, I myself believe God is eternal. I believe all things were created and exist by God.

If you do not believe that all things have a beginning then you must believe that they have always been.

So I ask you plainly, If you do not believe in God as the creator of the "Big Bang" What did it come from, And what did that come from, and what did it explode into? and so on...

You strive to understand how the universe began and what the Big Bang was all about? Let me know when you have a answer. Use your "superior intelligence and wit" The existence of God depends on it.

 

[Nostromo]

I do not believe these options to be silly, I myself believe God is eternal.

What do you mean here by "eternal"? That might sound like a silly question, but given the number of weird answers I've had in the past, I just had to ask.

 

[Nathan Poe]

Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end?

Isn't that what you believe? And don't you have a detailed personality profile as to who/what that something is?

 

[1611AV]

Or you believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning and no end

Isn't that what you believe? And don't you have a detailed personality profile as to who/what that something is?

Yes, I believe that God exists in eternity with no beginning and no end.

My question was, does he? Do you?

I have yet to get a answer to that question. Just a bunch of deflections and questions as you have posted.

So I ask you, Do you believe something can exist eternally, with no beginning and no end?

 

[Belk]

Yes, I believe that God exists in eternity with no beginning and no end.

My question was, does he? Do you?

I have yet to get a answer to that question. Just a bunch of deflections and questions as you have posted.

So I ask you, Do you believe something can exist eternally, with no beginning and no end?

Uh... He answered you in the first sentence.

No, I don't believe that nothing can create something. Do you? I also don't believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning or end. Do you?

 

[Nathan Poe]

Yes, I believe that God exists in eternity with no beginning and no end.

My question was, does he? Do you?

Your question had nothing to do with "God," just "something."

I have yet to get a answer to that question. Just a bunch of deflections and questions as you have posted.

So I ask you, Do you believe something can exist eternally, with no beginning and no end?

I'll answer that question as soon as you explain what it has to do with God.

 

[1611AV]

Uh... He answered you in the first sentence.

Uh.... ,bfshbas.vbasvabsfvkabsvakva is a answer to but, think about the answer

Originally Posted by phred: No, I don't believe that nothing can create something. Do you? I also don't believe that something can exist in eternity with no beginning or end. Do you?

He has already said:

I don't believe in God.
I don't believe in gods.
I don't believe in the supernatural.
I don't see any evidence for a god or gods.
I don't believe in devils either. Or angels.

How is it we are here then? Still waiting for answer...

 

[Belk]

I say to them, show me Biblically.

So you want them to show you the biblical evidence of a scientific theory? Do you also ask people to show you the fruit evidence of cows and other nonsensical things?

There is not multiple ways. The Bible is clear on that.

Proverbs 14:12
There is a way which SEEMETH right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.

I hope you'll forgive my lack of knowledge of the bible. Does this proverb pertain explicitly to biblical translation?

Praise God!!! Not thank goodness. No luck involved, that would be more Calvinism. I am not a Calvinist. No there is no way Im wrong because I Repented of my sin and Believe the Gospel according to the scriptures.

1 Corinthians Chapter 15:1-4

15:1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

15:2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

And yet the other Christians who have done the exact same things have a different interpretation of the bible. It makes me wonder why that is.

The Bible tells us we can know. We will know them by there fruit. Darwins fruit was evolution not a heart for seeing the lost come to receive the Lord Jesus Christ.

Now you claim to be able to see his heart as well. What amazing powers your God must have given you.

 

[1611AV]

Your question had nothing to do with "God," just "something."



I'll answer that question as soon as you explain what it has to do with God.

You cant answer that question because you know it would leave no other evidence but God.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen.

 

[Belk]

Uh.... ,bfshbas.vbasvabsfvkabsvakva is a answer to but, think about the answer

How deep and insightful.

He has already said:


How is it we are here then? Still waiting for answer...

Then perhaps you should ask him that question. The question you asked was two parts, both of which he answered.

 

[1611AV]

How deep and insightful.




Then perhaps you should ask him that question. The question you asked was two parts, both of which he answered.

Belk, if you want to be a moderator, the job is probably available.

 

[Belk]

Belk, if you want to be a moderator, the job is probably available.

Unfortunately they do not allow non Christian moderators anymore. Thanks for thinking of me though.

 

[Nostromo]

You cant answer that question because you know it would leave no other evidence but God.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen.

If faith counted as evidence it renders your first statement nonsense. I'm sure you'd agree that the existence of Hindus doesn't validate the truth of Hinduism, or a flat earth, aliens, Santa and so on.

As it is, there is no evidence for God besides faith, which is presumably why religions make a big deal out of taking things on faith.

 

[Nathan Poe]

You cant answer that question because you know it would leave no other evidence but God.

So "God" is the only possible eternal thing? Says who? And what does that have to do with evolution?

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the EVIDENCE of things not seen.

How ironic it is that people are encouraged to swear on a Bible in court, and yet, the courts don't use the Bible's definition of "evidence."

 

[1611AV]

If faith counted as evidence it renders your first statement nonsense. I'm sure you'd agree that the existence of Hindus doesn't validate the truth of Hinduism, or a flat earth, aliens, Santa and so on.

As it is, there is no evidence for God besides faith, which is presumably why religions make a big deal out of taking things on faith.

Ahhhh, like evolution. A religion of faith... Faith than Something or Someone has made all this that we call life and the universe and everything they contain. While both agreeing that something can not come of nothing. Interesting...