If everything evolved, and wasn't created, then what was the very first thing that everything evolved from?
where would the RNA-based self-replicators have come from?
and if they are self-replicators, then how did they evolve into something other than themselves?
Where would the organic materials come from then? wouldn't they have had to evolve from something also?
If errors occur that effect the speed of the process, how would it change the physical form of self replicators?
A lucky combination that was able to replicate itself.If they aren't alive then how would life evolve from them?
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
I was under the impression that organic materials contained no chemicals.
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
hmmm ok, it's a lucky combination then.
Where did the compounds that made up this lucky combination come from?
Originally posted by seebs
We don't really know for sure. For all we can *prove*, God waved His metaphorical hands, and said "Let there be amino acids". There's some evidence that, under "normal" circumstances, if you hit basic carbon and similar materials with lightning, boil them, freeze them, and otherwise abuse them, they start forming more complicated chemicals.
Have you ever played Conway's "life" game? If you just randomly make patterns of dots, sooner or later you get self-replicating ones.
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
Ahhhh! So in essence at one point or another something had to be created, by something or someone, Most likely that would have had to be God.
Can't say I have ever played this game. are all the dots self replicated to look alike, or do they take on different forms? can they turn into squares or triangles, on their own?
Originally posted by seebs
We don't actually know. Still, I don't think anyone has any objection to the belief that God created a few zillion particles so we'd have something to play with; the main scientific objection is to claims that it was done all at once, and recently.
The *dots* don't replicate; the *patterns* do. I can't really explain it except to say that it's a fun toy to play with. There's lots of computer versions of it; if you get one, you can easily set it up to see how ever-more-complicated patterns can be formed by gradual mutation, and every so often, you get a healthy pattern as a result.
If you were doing this over most of the surface of a planet, for, say, a billion years, it wouldn't be too surprising to get a few self-replicators with minimal defense mechanisms against being used as parts for other self-replicators... and from there, the race is on.
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
I was under the impression that organic materials contained no chemicals.
So where would these chemical substances based around carbon have come from?
Wouldn't the organic material need a certain amount of oxygen to survive?
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
hmmm seems like not even science can give us an exact age of the earth.
What do evolutionists think that the earth was composed of before life began to evolve? What was the very first compound that formed the earth?
And why is so hard for them to believe that God created man, like the bible says he did? from the dust of the earth, and not from an ape.
Originally posted by GraftMeIn
hmmm seems like not even science can give us an exact age of the earth.
What do evolutionists think that the earth was composed of before life began to evolve? What was the very first compound that formed the earth?
And why is so hard for them to believe that God created man, like the bible says he did? from the dust of the earth, and not from an ape.
dots are inanimate objects though, how can they become defensive?