Question about End Times

[little_lily613]

This question is for Christians of any denomination; however, I am looking for a TRADITIONAL Christian response (not the progressive/liberal response). I have a question about end times in Traditional Christianity. One thing Jews believe is that the Holy Temple will be rebuilt. Is this part of Christian theology? I know you guys will have different beliefs concerning the Messiah, and some other details, but is one of your prophecies that you are waiting for also include the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem? Very curious!
G~d bless!!
~Little_Lily613~

 

[WickedServant]

This question is for Christians of any denomination; however, I am looking for a TRADITIONAL Christian response (not the progressive/liberal response). I have a question about end times in Traditional Christianity. One thing Jews believe is that the Holy Temple will be rebuilt. Is this part of Christian theology? I know you guys will have different beliefs concerning the Messiah, and some other details, but is one of your prophecies that you are waiting for also include the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem? Very curious!
G~d bless!!
~Little_Lily613~

It was prophesied close to 2000 years ago that the Temple of Jerusalem would be destroyed, but the prophecy said nothing about it being rebuilt. Perhaps it will be replaced.

When Jesus of Nazareth, in Jerusalem, said "This Temple will be destroyed, and in 3 days I will rebuild it" it is Himself being referred to.

"And I saw a new Heaven and a new Earth, for the first Heaven and the first Earth passed away, there is no longer any sea. And I saw the Holy City, new Jerusalem..."

Bless me

 

[little_lily613]

Thank you both for your answers, they've given me a better understanding of the Christian viewpoint! G~d bless!

 

[dvd_holc]

I disagree.

4. REBUILDING OF THE TEMPLE, RESTORATION OF TEMPLE WORSHIP AND ANIMAL SACRIFICES IN JERUSALEM​

For several end time prophecies to be fulfilled, the temple will have to be rebuilt.

Revelation 11:2 "Leave out the court which is outside the temple and do not measure it, for it has been given to the nations; and they will tread under foot the oly city for forty-two months."

Daniel 9:27 "And he will make a firm covenant with the many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and grain offering; and on the wing of abominations will come one who makes desolation, even until a complete destruction, one that is decreed, is poured out on the one who makes desolate."

Daniel 9:26 "Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary."

Some archeologists believe that the temple mount is actually 340 feet south of the Dome of the Rock site, putting the Dome of the Rock within the Court of the Gentiles. This may be the court outside the temple that is left out.

There are many groups already working on preparations for the new temple. The blueprints are already done, the temple garments have been made, and there have already been attempts to lay the cornerstone of the temple. The only thing standing in the way of the construction of the new temple is Islam's third holiest site, the Dome of the Rock and government support for such an undertaking. Some possible scenarios for the rebuilding of the temple are as follows:


1. The persuasion and performing of miracles by the Antichrist and False Prophet convinces the Islamic world to approve the rebuilding.


2. The United Nations will negotiate the rebuilding of the temple following a war with the armies from the North (Russia and Islamic forces). This assumes that the war with the armies from the North is not the battle of Armageddon as some feel and that this attack occurs before the rapture or tribulation period begins. The supernatural destruction of the Russian army and Islamic forces will cause an outpouring of Christian worship and zeal amongst the Jewish people who will reconstruct the temple.


3. It is determined that the site of the first two temples is actually south of the Dome of the Rock, and the court of the gentiles (Dome of the Rock) will be left out of the 3rd temple.


A group in Israel called the Temple Mount Faithful have obtained most of the clothing, instruments and other equipment required for temple worship and are actively preparing for the laying of the third temple's cornerstone.
taken from http://contenderministries.org/prophecy/endtimes.php


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Also, look at this:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=82226
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=44672

 

[Sketcher]

I believe that the end time prophesies necessitate a temple. I don't know how it will occur with militant Islam being right there, but somehow it will happen.

 

[AlikhnKwizad]

Yes. TEMPLE- ABSOLUTELY!

 

[Stinker]

I am not waiting on any temple in Jerusalem to be rebuilt. It may be rebuilt in the future but as to whether Jesus will be in there I don't know.

 

[WickedServant]

I disagree.

For several end time prophecies to be fulfilled, the temple will have to be rebuilt.

Fair enough. I simply said that prophecy said nothing about the rebuilding of the Temple.

Wether it gets rebuilt or not by men, it seems God has his own plan of his tabernacle being with men.

 

[Adoniram]

Actually, a fairly detailed description of this future Temple is given in Ezekiel 40-47:12. It will be built after Israel is restored and converted (Ezek. 39:25-29).

A lot of Biblical scholars think that the construction of the Temple will be part of a compromise that the Antichrist will propose as part of the peace treaty between Israel and her neighbors mentioned in Daniel 9:27. Said treaty ushers in the Tribulation period, and 3-1/2 years later, the Antichrist profanes the Temple (the abomination of desolation spoken of by Jesus in Matt. 24:15).

 

[missionette]

I've been studying the end times for quite a while now! My dad and i r the ultimate revelations encyclopedia!lol. Yes, a temple is necessary, as are the ashes of the pure red heffer, which have now been found! It is very possible that the Jewish people have found a spot to begin building the temple. If you'd like to know more about that, concerning the dome of the rock issue, PM me. Antichrist, the one who will die by the blade, and then rise, possessed by Satan, will defile that temple, thus breaking the 7year contract made between Isreal and Antichrist at the begining of the Tribulation. No one knows when exactly the Tribulation, Rapture, or the End Times will occur, except for God! Yet, I believe that we are in what is called the final hour, the 11th hour. The 12 hour is the time of tribulation. I have many facts and opinions to back this thought up, but perhaps this is not the right place.....
Hope i helped,
Missionette

 

[WickedServant]

I've been studying the end times for quite a while now! My dad and i r the ultimate revelations encyclopedia!lol. Yes, a temple is necessary, as are the ashes of the pure red heffer, which have now been found! It is very possible that the Jewish people have found a spot to begin building the temple. If you'd like to know more about that, concerning the dome of the rock issue, PM me. Antichrist, the one who will die by the blade, and then rise, possessed by Satan, will defile that temple, thus breaking the 7year contract made between Isreal and Antichrist at the begining of the Tribulation. No one knows when exactly the Tribulation, Rapture, or the End Times will occur, except for God! Yet, I believe that we are in what is called the final hour, the 11th hour. The 12 hour is the time of tribulation. I have many facts and opinions to back this thought up, but perhaps this is not the right place.....
Hope i helped,
Missionette

It is quite possible that the AntiChrist, or one of them, has come and gone already.

 

[missionette]

It is quite possible that the AntiChrist, or one of them, has come and gone already.

Hmmm... i don't agree with that. I know that their are people who are antichrist, but where in the bible does it speak of there being these Antichrists? PM me..

 

[dvd_holc]

The final Antichrist that is fortold of has not yet came. There are many that where of the spirit of antichrist. Yet none of them was allowed to bring fire down from the sky which is fortold of one. Jesus has said that if another comes in his own name you will accept him. He did not refer to many but one. Therefore, there is one that is above all other men in wickedness. He is will be given domain right before his return.

 

[missionette]

The final Antichrist that is fortold of has not yet came. There are many that where of the spirit of antichrist. Yet none of them was allowed to bring fire down from the sky which is fortold of one. Jesus has said that if another comes in his own name you will accept him. He did not refer to many but one. Therefore, there is one that is above all other men in wickedness. He is will be given domain right before his return.

definately! i totally agree!

 

[MinDach]

For all who would like to understand what is happening in Israel Now, and about the future temple, there is a place on the net you can get this information, type in
Prophecy Update & The Temple Institute, this information may help you understand the days in which we live in.

 

[ShaggyFlasko]

I don't think any temple in the future will have any significance. The herodian temple was to be destroyed within that generation (Matthew 24:34, 23:36, 16:27-28, Luke 21:22). God's wrath was to be poured out on that generation of apostate Jews who rejected Christ and were persecuting his Church (Matthew 23, 2 Thess. 1).

It's a common view of the historic Christian church that these things (even most of them) would come upon that generation. A push to rebuild the temple would only be an abomination to God, himself. It's not easy to defile something that's already an affront to the Lord and an insult to Christ's sacrifice and priesthood (Hebrews 7:24-28, 8:4-5), such as with the abomination standing in the holy place (also predicted upon that generation, as per Matt 24:15 and Mark 13:14).

There is no further place for the "jewish" race in God's redemptive plan except in salvation through Christ. He's the only way (John 14:6) and rules over his people (Galatians 3:28-29).

So basically...no. There will not be another temple with prophetic significance. In my opinion, God probably won't allow such an abomination to be constructed, anyway. The herodian temple was the last one that could ever be considered "holy".

I realize that this may not be the "popular" view at the moment. However, it is more representative of historic christianity than dispensationalism (what most people here believe) alone (whose movement really picked up only in the last 100 years or so), which is not the best representation of historic christianity's futuristic leanings, which tended to be closer to partial preterism (though not all, there were many full futurists and full preterists).

futurism - the end times are yet to come
preterism - the end times are fulfilled
partial - some stuff is fulfilled, much of it isn't, to varying degrees
dispensationalism - a complicated form of futurism that I really can't explain...

Did that help? This is a pretty historic, conservative interpretation (either partial or full preterist). Let me know if I can do anything to make it clearer or more helpful.

God bless
-Bill

 

[MinDach]

There is no further place for the "jewish" race in God's redemptive plan except in salvation

This is not so, there are many places in the Bible where it says, that we are only saved because of the Jewish Race of people, I do not have time to list them now, but will try to get them listed later, all of what Is happening now over Israel is Prophecy being fulfilled before our own eyes today. There are many point of view, on this subject, but this is a very important one, and if you do not have your eyes open, you can miss what is happening.

 

[MidnightBlue]

This question is for Christians of any denomination; however, I am looking for a TRADITIONAL Christian response (not the progressive/liberal response). I have a question about end times in Traditional Christianity. One thing Jews believe is that the Holy Temple will be rebuilt. Is this part of Christian theology? I know you guys will have different beliefs concerning the Messiah, and some other details, but is one of your prophecies that you are waiting for also include the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem? Very curious!
G~d bless!!
~Little_Lily613~

Most Christian prophecy buffs believe the Temple will be rebuilt. However, it cannot be stressed strongly enough that the most popular end-times speculation -- the kind you get from Hal Lindsey, Salem Kirban, Jack Van Impe, Pat Robertson, the Left Behind books, etc. -- is not at all traditional. That kind of speculation is less than 200 years old, and first became popular in the mid-1800s.

 

[MidnightBlue]

I am not waiting on any temple in Jerusalem to be rebuilt. It may be rebuilt in the future but as to whether Jesus will be in there I don't know.

From a Christian point of view, the resumption of the Temple sacrifices, in denial of the efficacy of Jesus' death, would be abhorrent. Of course Jewish people wouldn't see it that way, but no Christian would touch something like that with a 10-cubit pole.

 

[dllewis1958]

I've been studying the end times for quite a while now! My dad and i r the ultimate revelations encyclopedia!lol. Yes, a temple is necessary, as are the ashes of the pure red heffer, which have now been found! It is very possible that the Jewish people have found a spot to begin building the temple. If you'd like to know more about that, concerning the dome of the rock issue, PM me. Antichrist, the one who will die by the blade, and then rise, possessed by Satan, will defile that temple, thus breaking the 7year contract made between Isreal and Antichrist at the begining of the Tribulation. No one knows when exactly the Tribulation, Rapture, or the End Times will occur, except for God! Yet, I believe that we are in what is called the final hour, the 11th hour. The 12 hour is the time of tribulation. I have many facts and opinions to back this thought up, but perhaps this is not the right place.....
Hope i helped,
Missionette

First off let me say Happy Birthday to you, Missionette, very good post and I totally agree with you. I am also very impressed in the knowledge that you have at your young age especially about end times...Keep up the good works .of God..

God Bless

Diane