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Dionysiou

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case and point, your not supposed to live any lifestyle you want, there are biblical guidelines to follow. Not to mention, anybody who claims to be filled with the Spirit should therefore be able to discern between what is good or bad. On a second note, your "where love is, God is", is completetly out of context, following that sort of mentality you could say that where there is love between a pedophile and a child, there is God.
 
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1. I believe in the core moral tenants of quakerism, especially pacifism. I love their non-creedal nature, contemplative practice, and acceptance of other faiths.

2. I'm a panentheist, so not at all hah. Theologically I would have to say I'm a Unitarian, if I could put a label on it.

3. I meditate alone, I don't need others to worship with me.
 
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I graduated from a Quaker school in Indiana, Earlham School of Religion...grew up in the Methodist Church.

These days you can find 'Quakers' that believe anything.

For a good background: read George Fox's Journal [he was their first leader]. Also, The People Called Quakers by Elton Trueblood. For their theology, Robert Barclay's Apology. Also recommend No Cross, No Crown by William Penn ed. by R Selleck.

You can find these used online.

My book, Christian Pacifism: Fruit of the Narrow Way was published by Friends United Press, now out-of-print but you can find used online...Alibris or Abe books, Amazon only rip off prices left. My website is mikesnow dot org...think its linked on my profile?
 
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When writing my new book, Oh Holy Night: The Peace of 1914 [see my website link if you click on my name], ran across the sad story of incidents like this:
when the Armistice was signed, rejoicing in the end of the war was also accompanied by some ugly incidents, e.g. a Kansas Mennonite farmer [a pacifist, and German backgroiund] was kidnapped and beaten, etc.
 
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The primary mentor of my life was an elderly Quaker gentleman from near Camden, New Jersey. I met him at a nature camp, and his main lesson was to love the truth so much that I was willing to sit in silence and wait on God to tell me what was true. And then to engage in whatever studies of nature, history, or art to confirm what He was saying. I agree with the call to study the life and vision of George Fox, to stand on his shoulders, and to move forward from the view from there. The movement called "Quakerism", he would be likely to say, has sadly backslid-en from what G. Fox hoped.
 
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I am close to the Quaker views of Lewis Benson. I just found them to be most likely a truthful way to interpret the Bible and personal experience. But I know very little.

I am not a formal Quaker at all. Just was very active at their meetings for three years. But almost none else there cared about Lewis Benson so I did not want to force my interpretation on them. They where more into Universalist Quaker views and such more Post Modern interpretations. Every local Quaker meeting is very diverse.
 
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We appear to be kindred spirits. I pray daily for the work and vision of Fox to be revived. Like Fox, I find that direct communication with God is most effective for wisdom. Waiting on His Spirit, and blending messages with those of other listeners. Maybe we ought to read his journals together, meditate on passages, and share what we are getting? I strongly suspect that praying in agreement can make a huge difference in what happens.

My given name is Stephen.
 
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I am a pastor of a Friends church (Quakers). The majority of Friends would be considered Christ-centered and Spirit-led. Friends United Meeting (FUM) based out of Richmond, Indiana is the largest of the three main Quaker groups. FUM is very evangelical and would accept the doctrines you mentioned.
 
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...For a good background: read George Fox's Journal [he was their first leader]. Also, The People Called Quakers by Elton Trueblood. For their theology, Robert Barclay's Apology. Also recommend No Cross, No Crown by William Penn ed. by R Selleck...

Wonderful. Thank you very much for these recommendations. I have also been looking for some material concerning Friends.
 
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The majority of Quaker Meetings / Churches would be evangelical and Christ-centered. These would be called pastoral meetings, in that they have a pastor. I became a Friend 36 years ago. Although Friends have no "official creeds", most Friends would adhere to the 1887 Richmond Declaration of Faith which can be found at the Friends United Meeting (FUM) website.
 
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First, a preamble: I am, in this order: 1) a Quaker; 2) an orthodox Quaker; 3) a "Gurneyite;" and 4) an Evangelical Quaker. Unlike our liberal, unprogrammed cousins (who seem to be the first to come to mind when Quakers are mentioned, hence the qualification*) we are, as a general rule, theologically and socially conservative and we utilize pastors and programmed services with hymns, sermons, etc. that are similar to what you'd find in any typical low-Protestant church, particularly those of the Holiness/Wesleyan/Methodist/Evangelical/Revivalist persuasion (because our beliefs were refined by the Second Great Awakening). We have commonality, however, in that we continue to maintain distinct beliefs and interpretations, albeit alongside Evangelical "standards" (if you will) of Biblical authority and inerrancy, Trinitarianism, and so forth and we, too, practice "quietism" and "waiting worship" (Spirit-led silent worship) but as a part of our overall service and practice rather than the majority of it.

* For what it's worth, though universally mischaracterized as such, the vast majority of Quaker meetings worldwide are not liberal, unprogrammed, or new age.

Wiki: In today's world, around 89% of Friends worldwide worship in churches that have programmed worship —that is worship with singing unto God, a prepared message from the Bible, and often coordinated by a pastor. Around 11% of Friends practice waiting worship (also known as unprogrammed worship) - that is worship where the order of service is not planned in advance, which is predominantly silent, and which may include unprepared vocal ministry from anyone present, so long as it is credible to those assembled that the speaker is moved to speak by God.

A quick selection of ideological standards from the majority, for comparison:

Declaration of Faith Issued by the Richmond Conference in 1887
Northwest Yearly Meeting Faith and Practice (PDF) (sections: Friends Faith and Appendix)
Evangelical Friends Church-Eastern Region Faith and Practice (PDF) (sections: Doctrine, Testimonies, and Appendix)

And a boilerplate representative statement from a local unprogrammed meeting:

"Although the roots of the Religious Society of Friends (Quakers) are in Christianity, some individual Friends do not call themselves Christians. Today’s Friends are very comfortable with the wide range of beliefs in any one Quaker meeting. The Meeting welcomes lesbians, gay men, and non-traditional families."

Up to and including:

"Nontheist Quakers (also known as nontheist Friends) are those who affiliate with, identify with, engage in, or affirm Quaker practices and processes, but who do not necessarily accept a belief in a theistic understanding of God, a Supreme Being, the divine, the soul or the supernatural."

1. Why are you a Quaker?

I was not raised in any religion, let alone in a specific denomination. I became a Christian (wholly unexpectedly) right around the time I became an adult, and I wasn't sure how to align myself for nearly a decade afterward. I've looked into everything from Eastern Orthodoxy to Calvinism to Oneness Pentecostalism and came up unsatisfied at the end ever time, so I took a look at my family tree for inspiration and decided to read more about Quakers after discovering my great-grandmother attended a Quaker church from the 1930s to the end of her life. Like many others I had been under the assumption that Quakerism and quietism were the same thing, but having looked into the history and theology a bit deeper I've finally found a match.

2. As a Quaker, do you generally accept the traditional Christian beliefs (Trinity, Jesus died, risen, coming again, etc.)?

Here are some excerpts from the sources I supplied earlier:

We believe in one eternal, omnipresent, unchanging, personal God; perfect in holiness, wisdom, love, power, and justice without preceding cause or beginning; creator and preserver of all things, visible and invisible. He exists as one divine being and yet as a trinity of three distinct persons, identical, inseparable, and equal in divinity, power and eternity: God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit.

...He [Jesus] died in our place and was raised the third day for our justification; He ascended into heaven and sits at the right hand of God, ever living as our only Mediator and High Priest making intercession for us, and from there will return again to receive His church unto Himself and to judge the world in righteousness.

We in the EFCI also affirm the National Association of Evangelicals' Statement of Faith.

There are, of course, certain beliefs and practices that prevent us being lumped in with any ol' Protestant denomination. Generally speaking, we do not practice outward ordinances (the two ordinances being identified by the Reformation as Baptism and the Lord's Supper). We believe in Baptism of the Spirit (not to be confused with tongues, etc.) which is the "Inner Light" or the working of the Holy Spirit which indwells in man. However, some Quaker churches (mostly abroad, from what I gather) are experimenting with water baptism, but will only baptize adults on a profession of faith. So, not only do we not baptize infants, we tend to not baptize at all. Just one point of contention with our mainline brethren.
 
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... following that sort of mentality you could say that where there is love between a pedophile and a child, there is God.
Um. I thought relationships were traditionally considered a two way/reciprocated thing? Built on more than just sex?
 
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I am not a Quaker, but am going to my local meeting tonight. I have been moving towards them for a while and have been in the past where I lived previously, but only once or twice.

I really like their attitude to life and The Bible and how they see the Christian life.
 
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Thanks for all the info. Do you have any sense of what percentage of Evangelical Friends hold to the Peace Testimony?
 
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