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'Don't impose your beliefs on us' is not imposing beliefs on anyone. Nice try, thanks for playing

I find telling my children that they have to attend public school, and have acceptance of homosexuality, and to be preached Abiogenesis as an imposition.

Would you like to double down? I'm just getting warmed up.
 
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Jordan Peterson doesn't endorse any religion specifically, he endorses understanding the power of religious symbols and mythology. It's wrong to see him endorsing a specific kind of religious belief. His actual, personal belief about religion seems to be based on transpersonal Jungian psychology.
 
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JBP tends to complain about the rather vague postmodern neomarxism, while basically recommending Christianity in all but name. Similarly vague, equally useless.

It's a shame, because he's so close to bringing something truly relevant to the world. But as things stand, he's just peddling the same nonsense that caused our problems in the first place.
 
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JBP tends to complain about the rather vague postmodern neomarxism, while basically recommending Christianity in all but name. Similarly vague, equally useless. .

His video lecture on the life of the Buddha demonstrates he's not specifically endorsing Christianity.

His perspective is really more perennialist, like the late religious scholar Huston Smith, informed by a great deal of Jungian psychology.
 
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How are American students inundated with Christianity? Students aren't fighting that war; and studying Islam isn't a prerequisite to signing up for a military career.

As somebody who has lived some of my life as somebody who didn't profess Christianity, I can tell you our culture is inundated with Christian symbols. Most atheists or Jews understand the New Testament better than the the average American Evangelical. In fact, alot of non-Christians in the US resent the popular notion that I was raised with as normative, that everyone in the US is supposed to have an opinion about Jesus, with at least a bit of automatic deference ("oh Jesus... he was a great prophet/rabbi/wise man, etc."... Even the Dalai Lama gets asked to speak about Jesus in the US, despite Jesus being a figure that has no role in Buddhism).

This is but one example of how much Christianity inundates America's consciousness- it's literally something a person cannot avoid even if they wanted to. It is an unearned, rarely challenged privilege, to the point that the epiphet of the Christian deity is even on dollar bills, something that the US Supreme Court, curiously enough, doesn't consider "religious" (which is proof enough of the pervasive bias in our culture).
 
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Obfuscation on religion or supernaturalism seems to be the order of the day in the ramblings of J. Peterson. One gets the distinct notion that he doesn't accept some key piece of Christian dogma (like the trinity or eternal salvation) and wants to lead his followers into thinking he believes what they believe.
 
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I don't think Peterson is a theist in the traditional sense. He certainly wouldn't fit in with evangelicals. There are some American or Canadian Episcopalians or Anglicans that probably would have a religious perspective more like his, however.

Peterson is a storyteller and that's the method he uses to teach. He's not trying to tell people what to think, he's trying to teach them how to think, as a human being with a history and consciousness that is deeper and richer than what western Positivism suggests is the only way for a human to properly orient their mind.
 
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As somebody who has lived some of my life as somebody who didn't profess Christianity, I can tell you our culture is inundated with Christian symbols.

That'a an interesting perspective. As a Christian, I look around; and I'm inundated with Satanic symbolism. It's everywhere.


Have you looked into the symbolism depicted on the dollar bill?
 
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That'a an interesting perspective. As a Christian, I look around; and I'm inundated with Satanic symbolism. It's everywhere.



Have you looked into the symbolism depicted on the dollar bill?

IN GOD WE TRUST

It doesn't say "In Amaterasu we Trust" or "In Vishnu we trust". Nope. It says something that's historically understood by Christians as the object of their worship.
 
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IN GOD WE TRUST

It doesn't say "In Amaterasu we Trust" or "In Vishnu we trust". Nope. It says something that's historically understood by Christians as the object of their worship.

If you asked the average Christian if he worshiped Horace; he'd say, "nope."
 
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Horace isn't on the dollar bill.

It's winking at you.



Here are artifacts from Ancient Egypt:



That's as much as I'm going to say on the subject, lest we drift off topic.
 
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It's winking at you.



That's as much as I'm going to say on the subject, lest we drift off topic.


That's actually a Christian symbol from the middle ages. It represents God's omniscience.
 
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I find telling my children that they have to attend public school, and have acceptance of homosexuality, and to be preached Abiogenesis as an imposition.

Would you like to double down? I'm just getting warmed up.
But that's not an imposition on religious faith, only on ignorance and bigotry.
 
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Unless you are seeking to impose a suppression of Christianity; promoting Christianity should be in no way an imposition for you.
I remember feeling very uncomfortable when a Jewish classmate was forced to sing Christian songs in elementary school around Christmas time. Heck, I was too young to understand why it was so difficult for him, but I could tell he wasn't too happy with the situation. My mom tried to explain it to me later, but it was all too confusing for my young mind to comprehend.

Of course, in the minds of some Christians, promoting Christianity to people who aren't Christian (and don't want to BE Christian) whould in no way be an imposition.
 
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