proving evolution as just a "theory"

[omega2xx]

Considering from your other posts you're too lazy to even click a link and start reading about said evidence, I'm not surprised you don't think the ToE is supported by it.

Proving by your laziness you are not willing to take 5 minuets to cut and past the evidence any evo link provides.

But like I said earlier, that's your prerogative. You can choose to accept or reject whatever science you want and believe whatever you want. In the end, it doesn't matter.

That is very kind of you to let me believe what I wish. I offer you the same choice. In the end it does matter. Truth always matters.

 

[omega2xx]

I agree.

Now can we get back to the point I was making? The fact that a lab can determine that the DNA of one group is different from the DNA of another group does not prove that the groups are unrelated. The fact that we have some differences in DNA from chimps does not indicate we are unrelated.

We do, after all share 98.8% of our DNA with chimps.

See DNA: Comparing Humans and Chimps.

It is not the similarities that separated us, it is the differences.

Why do we still have chimps? Why has a chimp never produced a human? What gave humans the ability to talk, a characteristic not found in apes. Maye be evolved from parrots.

What caused us to lose our prehensile tails? That seems like a very useful characteristic.

 

[omega2xx]

And humans and chimps are also related, and their DNA is evidence of that.

Amusing. DNA from 1000 humans will show they are are all related by species. DNA from 1000 chimps will show they are all related by species.

What else will it show? Chimps and humans are not related by species.

It is a very simple scientific concept.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Why do we still have chimps? Why has a chimp never produced a human? What gave humans the ability to talk, a characteristic not found in apes. Maye be evolved from parrots.

If you say things like this nobody will take you seriously. Given how much you have been corrected/educated this sort of commnent shows that you have not listened to a single thing that has been said but simply handwaved it all away.

What caused us to lose our prehensile tails? That seems like a very useful characteristic.

What would you use a tail for?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Amusing. DNA from 1000 humans will show they are are all related by species. DNA from 1000 chimps will show they are all related by species.

What else will it show? Chimps and humans are not related by species.

It is a very simple scientific concept.

I suggested earlier that you go investigate degrees of relatedness. Please go and do that before posting any more of this nonsense.

It is, indeed, a very simple concept. You should be able to understand very quickly.

 

[omega2xx]

This is untrue, what "evos" point to are known speciation events, which ultimately arise from mutations in DNA which spread through populations until their accumulated effect is such that the result is populations that can no longer interbreed.

The inability to interbreed doe snot change the species. Too much inter breeding can cause some to become sterile. In the study of ring species, where some were no longer able to breed, the salamanders remained the exact same species they were before. In fact some of them did not become sterile and continued to breed. Guess what they bred.

 

[omega2xx]

If you say things like this nobody will take you seriously. Given how much you have been corrected/educated this sort of commnent shows that you have not listened to a single thing that has been said but simply handwaved it all away.

Very amusing. You say I have been corrected, yet you have not offered any verifiable scientific evidence. All you and the other have done is parrot the usual doctrines of the fundie evolutionists.

What would you use a tail for?

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Blurb

Perhaps you'd use that tail to sort out your quote tags?

 

[omega2xx]

I suggested earlier that you go investigate degrees of relatedness. Please go and do that before posting any more of this nonsense.

Please don't tell me what to post. If what I say is nonsense, post the evidence that makes it nonsense. It is obvious that you do not understand saying "degree of evidence" is not evidence. To say it is is nonsense.

It is, indeed, a very simple concept. You should be able to understand very quickly.

I do understand ir. That is why I reject your lack of understanding it. Instead of asking what use is a tail, answer my question. O you can't so you try to avoid the question by asking me one. I will answer yours when you answer mine.

 

[omega2xx]

Adam was the common ancestor of ALL Humans. He was made be immortal with an intelligence level like God's. Gen 3:22 Adam was "HIS" kind or the kind which was made by the Hands of Jesus/Lord God. Gen 2:7 Adam was also "THEIR" kind after he and Eve were born again Spiritually in Christ, by the Trinity. Gen 1:27 Gen 5:1-2 and John 14:16

His kinds are temporal while Their kinds are always immortal. Amen?

I agree except man does not have an intelligence level like God's.

 

[omega2xx]

Wow, you mean science can't explain everything?!

Science can't even explain all of the natural universe. The origin of life for example. It certainly can't explain the supernatural. That requires an omniscient God.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

Please don't tell me what to post. If what I say is nonsense, post the evidence that makes it nonsense. It is obvious that you do not understand saying "degree of evidence" is not evidence. To say it is is nonsense.

Where did I say "degree of evidence"? You are looking increasingly foolish.

I do understand ir.

Your posts indicate that not to be correct. I am politely encouraging you to fix that situation rather than continuing with your ill-informed assertions.

 

[omega2xx]

Demonstrate by providing evidence that Adam existed.

Someone had to start the human race. If you don't like Adam for it, tell me how the human race originated.

 

[omega2xx]

If you were actually interested in learning about evolution you would just visit the site I linked to.

Just goes to show that you're only here to argue about things you know nothing about instead of educating yourself.

If you were interested in proving me wrong, you would take 5 minuets to cut and paste some evidence in your link.

Your unwillingness to do that shows you can't or you are just here to argue about things you know nothing about(science) instead of educating yourself.

Only evidence educates. All you have done is parrot the usual evo talking points, which are not based on science.

 

[omega2xx]

Whatever works for you.

Science works for me. Try it sometimes

 

[omega2xx]

Where did I say "degree of evidence"? You are looking increasingly foolish.


Your posts indicate that not to be correct. I am politely encouraging you to fix that situation rather than continuing with your ill-informed assertions.

I am politely asking you to provide the evidence, scientific of course, that shows my assertions are ill-informed.

Until you do that, you are just blowing the usual evo smoke to hide the fact you have no scientific evidence to support the theology of the TOE.

 

[Jimmy D]

Why do we still have chimps? Why has a chimp never produced a human? What gave humans the ability to talk, a characteristic not found in apes. Maye be evolved from parrots.

Please do a bit of reading on the subject. I’m not asking you to agree with what you read, but at least you might get an idea of what you’re arguing against.

 

[Bugeyedcreepy]

It is not the similarities that separated us, it is the differences.

Actually it's Both the similarities AND the differences. I'd ask you to read up on it like everyone else has asked you, but I know that hell will freeze over well before you ever do that.

Why do we still have chimps? Why has a chimp never produced a human? What gave humans the ability to talk, a characteristic not found in apes. Maye be evolved from parrots.

Why do we still have Europeans? Why has a European never produced an American? What gave Americans the American accent, a characteristic not found in Europeans. Maybe evolved from Africans.

Amusing. DNA from 1000 humans will show they are are all related by species. DNA from 1000 chimps will show they are all related by species.

What else will it show? Chimps and humans are not related by species.

...but chimps and humans are related by Tribe: Hominini - Wikipedia

It is a very simple scientific concept.

I agree. That you will never get it astounds the rest of us to no end.

Please don't tell me what to post. If what I say is nonsense, post the evidence that makes it nonsense. It is obvious that you do not understand saying "degree of evidence" is not evidence. To say it is is nonsense.

Pigeon Chess.

I do understand ir. That is why I reject your lack of understanding it. Instead of asking what use is a tail, answer my question. O you can't so you try to avoid the question by asking me one. I will answer yours when you answer mine.

Pigeon Chess.

If you were interested in proving me wrong, you would take 5 minuets to cut and paste some evidence in your link.

Your unwillingness to do that shows you can't or you are just here to argue about things you know nothing about(science) instead of educating yourself.

Only evidence educates. All you have done is parrot the usual evo talking points, which are not based on science.

Pigeon Chess!

I am politely asking you to provide the evidence, scientific of course, that shows my assertions are ill-informed.

Until you do that, you are just blowing the usual evo smoke to hide the fact you have no scientific evidence to support the theology of the TOE.

Pigeon Chess....

 

[doubtingmerle]

I can see inside your bones, I can see things inside your body that science with their most powerful x-ray cannot see! I can see through all matter, and the list goes into the beyond! This is the incredible, infinite God power of my spirit sight and God connection; which is my spirit! For its powerful, limitless functions goes way beyond the imagination, than just being the power source that is keeping me alive!

That's quite a talent you have there.

Have you ever seen a robot penquin? Have you seen a pregnant car have a baby car?

Just curious.

 

[doubtingmerle]

What gave humans the ability to talk, a characteristic not found in apes.

The short answer: We needed to be able to gossip.

The long answer: Early hominids leaving the forest found themselves in a unique situation in which cooperation among themselves in novel ways gave them a special evolutionary advantage. To do this they needed to communicate, and so they evolved complex facial expressions and voice sounds. As time went on, and communications needed to be more complex, combinations of sounds were the most effective means of doing so.

Why don't all the other animals talk? Most animals do have some basic means of communicating by voice, but nothing nearly as complex as what humans do. Hominids did this at great price. Early on they gave up much of their sense of smell so they could concentrate more brainpower to the difficult task of understanding each other. That led to bigger and bigger brains, but hominids were limited by the size of the head that could pass through the birth canal. So they evolved the novel solution that the brain continued to grow after birth. That's cool, but as a result, babies are very helpless for several years after birth. That required a lot of resources to feed and care for helpless babies, and it required mothers to get commitment from others in the species. Hominids were able to do that. All that patience in caring for babies led to the smartest creatures on earth, creatures that were able to talk and understand each other, creatures that were able to work together to find new ways to get food and protect themselves, creatures that could develop deep relationships based on mutual trust.

Which brings me back to my original point. Hominids needed deep trusting relationships, and to do that they needed to know whom they could trust. There is no better method to find out who will stab you when your back is turned but to gossip. And so hominids spent long hours around the fire in the evenings, telling stories about who did what. And from that, they learned who they could trust, and developed deep relationships with those they selected, and that allowed them to build the communities necessary to grow helpless babies into adults with big brains.

So we learned to talk so we could gossip and commit to each other and grow babies into adults with big brains.