proving evolution as just a "theory"

[omega2xx]

So we should look at the evidence, shouldn't we?

The only evidence for the existence of God is His creation. There is no evidence that God does not exist.

And given that there's no evidence for the Bible's claims, we shouldn't just assume them, should we?

WE accept them by faith alone. Since there is no evidence for evolution's claims, we should not just assume them, should we?

Unlike some people, I'm not afraid to admit that there are things that I don't know.

It is not as matter of admitting there are things we don't know. Only a fool would not admit that. It is about declaring something to be true that can't be proved. I admit I can't prove God exists, do you admit nothing in the TOE can be proved?

That does NOT, however, mean that Goddidit.

I have not said it means God did it. I said that it is the most logical reason to say He did and I gave my reasons. You have not give your reasons for saying He did not do it.

False dichotomy.

Why?

Irrelevant, since no one is claiming they are eternal.

Some do. Most avoid answering the question like the plague. What explanation to you offer ass to the origin of matter, energy and life?

How many people wear glasses? I do. So how is that a perfect system? That's just ONE out of literally MILLIONS of flaws. Don't talk to me about having "perfect order."

A perfect system predicts poor vision will result as we get older. Flaws are predictable. They are the result of Adam's sin.

Evolution isn't random.

I was staling about d the origin of the universe, not evolution.

>>So what? He's simply admitting that there are things which science does not have the answer to. This is not a flaw in science. Science has never claimed that it can currently provide all the answers.[/QUOTE]

I did not suggest it was as flaw in science or tht it has all the answers. He was simply saying science can't explain our universe. Evolution thinks it can.

People of every religion say that, just swapping out the name of their deity of choice. Christianity is not special in that regard.

That depends on which religion, if any, is right. That is beyond the ability of science.

 

[omega2xx]

Since you seem to be so eager to Google things, why don't you try Googling "Evidence for natural selection"?

Not necessary. I was taught it in high school an in college.

evidence for natural selection - Google Search

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...i65l2j69i60.3944j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Your link did not provide any evidence for natural selection. Prove me wrong by cutting and posting the evidence they provided. It is possible you do not understand what constitutes evidence.

That's the last time I'm going to do your homework for you.[/QUOTE]

 

[Jimmy D]

If you understood DNA, that would be enough proof. Can you present the evidence it is not the case?

What is this nonsense? You made a claim, support it with evidence or be prepared to have it slung onto the huge garbage dump of creationist claims.

Who was it who said... "A conclusion is not valid without some supporting evidence." Oh yeah, it was you.

 

[omega2xx]

Each sentence tells the cells to make a special molecule called a protein that controls everything in the cell. The proteins help the cells to do their functions, to grow and to survive. The difference in these proteins is what makes two living things different from each other.

If you read carefully, this was explained to you.

One life form having blue eyes and another having green eyes makes them different, but they remain the same species. What causes one to be a different species?

 

[Jimmy D]

I don't know about the TOE

At last something we can agree on.

(Hope you enjoyed my use of creationist quote mining techniques there.)

 

[omega2xx]

What is this nonsense? You made a claim, support it with evidence or be prepared to have it slung onto the huge garbage dump of creationist claims.

Who was it who said... "A conclusion is not valid without some supporting evidence." Oh yeah, it was you.

If you understood DNA, that would be enough proof.

 

[Kylie]

Unless you have evidence, you accept what you believe by faith alone. Yes faith is the thing of Christianity.

There is a ton of evidence for evolution.

And do you think faith is a good thing or a bad thing?

I have not said or even implied faith is a bad thing. It is a good thing if the object of that faith is real and true.

So faith is good if the faith is true, but of course, everyone who has faith DOES have faith that it is true, don't they? So everyone thinks their faith is a good thing, while others who do not share that particular faith think it is bad.

You would if you could but you can't

I can, but like I said, I doubt that you would actually bother to read it, understand it and change your views accordingly. I think it's far more likely that you'll just dismiss it, tell me that I'm wrong, and maybe throw out some scientifically illiterate creationist propaganda that you think shows that whatever evidence I provide is wrong.

And I say this from experience. I've got better things to do than to waste my time.

Now, if you show some initiative and start learning about it yourself - remember, Google is your friend - then I'll be happy to help you out with the evidence for evolution. But until then, as far as I am concerned, you are no different from any of the many other creationists I've debated who aren't interested in learning.

 

[omega2xx]

At last something we can agree on.

(Hope you enjoyed my use of creationist quotemining techniques there.)

The next time you post something I said, post all of it.

 

[Jimmy D]

Since you seem to be so eager to Google things, why don't you try Googling "Evidence for natural selection"?

evidence for natural selection - Google Search

That's the last time I'm going to do your homework for you.

LOL, good luck, he "doesn't look at links".

 

[omega2xx]

There is a ton of evidence for evolution.<<

Then it should be easy for you to post some of it. Why not start with your next post to me.

And do you think faith is a good thing or a bad thing?

Faith is neutral. The only thing that is good or bad is the object of the faith. If the object is true, it is good. If not, the faith is not necessarily bad, but it is of no value.





So faith is good if the faith is true, but of course, everyone who has faith DOES have faith that it is true, don't they? So everyone thinks their faith is a good thing, while others who do not share that particular faith think it is bad.



I can, but like I said, I doubt that you would actually bother to read it, understand it and change your views accordingly. I think it's far more likely that you'll just dismiss it, tell me that I'm wrong, and maybe throw out some scientifically illiterate creationist propaganda that you think shows that whatever evidence I provide is wrong.

And I say this from experience. I've got better things to do than to waste my time.

Now, if you show some initiative and start learning about it yourself - remember, Google is your friend - then I'll be happy to help you out with the evidence for evolution. But until then, as far as I am concerned, you are no different from any of the many other creationists I've debated who aren't interested in learning.

 

[Kylie]

The only evidence for the existence of God is His creation. There is no evidence that God does not exist.

Woah, hold on there. You can't just ASSUME that God created everything in order to use it as evidence for God.

WE accept them by faith alone. Since there is no evidence for evolution's claims, we should not just assume them, should we?

There is a ton of evidence.

It is not as matter of admitting there are things we don't know. Only a fool would not admit that. It is about declaring something to be true that can't be proved. I admit I can't prove God exists, do you admit nothing in the TOE can be proved?

There are lots of things in the ToE that CAN be proved. Evolution requires mutations, and we can prove that mutations occur. Evolution requires changes over many generation, likewise, this has been observed to occur. Evolution states that one of the things that drives a change in traits is environmental pressures, and this has also been observed.

I have not said it means God did it. I said that it is the most logical reason to say He did and I gave my reasons. You have not give your reasons for saying He did not do it.

Because there's no evidence that he did it.

Why?

Because you only provided two options. You said God, or "The only other possibility is that those things are eternal."

Of course, please feel free to point out to me where you suggested a THIRD option...

Some do. Most avoid answering the question like the plague. What explanation to you offer ass to the origin of matter, energy and life?

If you were paying attention, you would have seen that I have answered this question.

A perfect system predicts poor vision will result as we get older.

Why?

Flaws are predictable. They are the result of Adam's sin.

lol, this makes me laugh. The two common cries of the creationist: Goddidit and Falldidit.

I was staling about d the origin of the universe, not evolution.

Who is saying it was random? Everything I have read about the science of the beginning of the universe is that we don't know. How do you figure that means "random"?

I did not suggest it was as flaw in science or tht it has all the answers. He was simply saying science can't explain our universe. Evolution thinks it can.

Except evolution doesn't say ANYTHING about where the universe came from. If you actually knew anything about evolution, you'd understand that. Once again, you demonstrate that you know nothing of evolution.

That depends on which religion, if any, is right. That is beyond the ability of science.

Beyond the ability of religion too, apparently.

 

[omega2xx]

LOL, good luck, he "doesn't look at links".

Why don't you include WHY I no longer look at them?

Why don't you do what I ask---cut and paste the evidence of any link you want to. That I will address.

If the evidence you post can be verified, you will become the evo hero and I will become the goat.

Wouldn't it b e wort 5 minuets of your time to do that? Instead you just beat around the bush blowing smoke.

 

[Kylie]

Not necessary. I was taught it in high school an in college.

Not very well, apparently, since you've been making mistakes about evolution that anyone with even a basic grasp of it would never make.

Your link did not provide any evidence for natural selection. Prove me wrong by cutting and posting the evidence they provided. It is possible you do not understand what constitutes evidence.

Dude, it was a Google Search results page showing the first page out of more than 6.7 MILLION results on the search "Evidence for Evolution."

I think you didn't even look at it!

 

[Kylie]

One life form having blue eyes and another having green eyes makes them different, but they remain the same species.

No one is saying otherwise.

What causes one to be a different species?

Many changes accumulating over many generations.

 

[Kylie]

...

Dude, sort out your quote tags, will you?

 

[Jimmy D]

The next time you post something I said, post all of it.

Don't like it when the shoe's on the other foot? Maybe you should refrain from such dishonest tactics in the future then.

 

[Jimmy D]

If you understood DNA, that would be enough proof.

Obviously I have a different understanding to you, so how about explaining the genetic evidence that shows "man and apes" are unrelated?

 

[omega2xx]

Not very well, apparently, since you've been making mistakes about evolution that anyone with even a basic grasp of it would never make.

I passed 3 college courses that included evolution was a fact, and that was before I became a Christian. How many have you passed?

What mistakes have I made about evolution? Be specific.

Dude, it was a Google Search results page showing the first page out of more than 6.7 MILLION results on the search "Evidence for Evolution."

Dudess pick one and cut and paste with it offered.

I think you didn't even look at it!

You are right. I quit reading post because the NEVER provide any evidence. Prove me wrong.

 

[omega2xx]

Don't like it when the shoe's on the other foot? Maybe you should refrain from such dishonest tactics in the future then.

I ask you first. Do what I ask, and I will do what you ask.

 

[Jimmy D]

I ask you first. Do what I ask, and I will do what you ask.

Eh?