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Just to clear some things up for everyone here. There is a big difference between Biblical Creation theory and Intelligent Design. The confusion comes because in a lot of ways the two employ the same methods and also one picks up where the other leaves off. That line is kind of blurred between the two. ID theory is just the theory that the natural universe and life was all designed by an intelligent source...(Period). That's the end of ID. It doesn't try to claim who or what is the designer it merely points to the amazing design structures observed in the make up of the universe, life, and even the laws of physics. ID leaves the argument over who or what is the designer up to the theologians. Biblical Creation theory however is the theory that upon examining the natural universe and comparing it to the claims made in the Bible about its formation, both will harmonize. Basically Biblical Creation employs the same methods but it also picks up where ID leaves off and says that these observations agree with the Biblical description strongly validating the claims that the God of the Bible is that designer.
This then would of course mean that all Biblical Creationists must be IDists. But does not necessitate that all IDists be Biblical Creationists.
With the exception of evolution from a common ancestor.Ah, so you know then, that scientific theories, require evidence.
Creationism = cdesign proponentsists = IDI see what you are saying. In what I've read and listened to on the website we are talking about they appear to be Biblical Creationists and use ID as a point as to why the Bible is correct in it's teachings and why evolution as not.
Ah of course! The claim that evolution takes a very long time to happen is support for the theory. That's why we can't observe it cause it take millions of years. Well except for the explosion. That was fast evolution. So apparently no matter if it's slow or fast it's evolution from a common ancestor.It's called the "EXPLOSION" of course it was quick!
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Misconception: how fast a species reproduces and how frequently it's genes mutate influence the speed of evolution immensely, as well as do natural selection pressures and available niches. This is why evolution experiments done in labs tend to center around bacteria and other organisms which reproduce quickly. Heck, I picked Triops for my experiment for the fact that for a multicellular organism, they reproduce very quickly.Ah of course! The claim that evolution takes a very long time to happen is support for the theory.
Well, I couldn't watch a mountain like Mt. Everest develop in its entirety, but I could watch it grow a few centimeters every year, and use the consistency of said growth to conclude how long it would take for the whole mountain to develop.That's why we can't observe it cause it take millions of years.
Relatively speaking. The Cambrian explosion occurred over the course of over 20 million years.Well except for the explosion. That was fast evolution.
Look up the punctuated equilibrium model for evolution. Evolution does not occur at a steady rate all the time. Certain factors, such as a bunch of niches being opened up thanks to a mass extinction, can cause the process to proceed faster. Others, such as a relatively stable environment, can slow it down.So apparently no matter if it's slow or fast it's evolution from a common ancestor.
Yes, of course!Ah of course!
Yes, that's what the evidence suggests.The claim that evolution takes a very long time to happen is support for the theory.
Wrong. It takes billions of years, and we can & do observe it.That's why we can't observe it cause it take millions of years.
Yes, 53* million years is a bit of an explosion on a planet that's been around 4.5 billion years.Well except for the explosion.
Yep, hence the name "Cambrian Explosion."That was fast evolution.
Now you're starting to get it.So apparently no matter if it's slow or fast it's evolution from a common ancestor.
XD dude, have you lost your touch? 541 million years ago is when the Cambrian period began, not how long it lasted, which is 53 million years.Yes, 541 million years is a bit of an explosion on a planet that's been around 4.5 billion years.
You can test for common ancestry. You might want to learn a bit about genetic and how all organisms have DNA in common. This shows that life evolved from a single living cell. Our knowledge of human evolution and the evolution of all modern life grows with each new discovery.It's still not science. Not really, because science can be observed tested and reproduced. You can't observe commin ancestry evolution, you can't test it or reproduce it. It's a an assumption. It's a belief system. It is based upon common design and then twisted into a belief system. All observable data shows that all things are remain what they are as a family or group. Dogs are dogs and cats are cats.
Nothing changes into anything else. A worm is a worm.
Do you think that 40 to 50 million years is too short for evolution to create new organisms? You must have no concept of how long a period that is. That's long enough for some stars to be born and to die. It's long enough for billions of generations of some organism to be born and to die. It's long enough for more than 400,000 generations of humans to be born and to die. It's long enough for new phyla to evolve from preexisting phyla.You could find all major phyla arriving in a period of only 40-50 million years (known as the Cambrian Explosion) utterly destroying the Neo Darwinian gradualism inference.
Did you mean to call attention to the recalcitrant fact of those data, or their knock down capability? Opps.
Citation Please!
Blather... What you're not addressing, is the Evidence.
As a rule I take their word for it. If they believe that Jesus Christ is the Word incarnate and in their salvation through His real, historical death and resurrection that is generally enough for me, especially if they witness for it in the way they lead their lives.
How do you know who is and who is not a Christian?
So a Christian is the same as a Good Scotsman.Only God knows as the following shows:
Jesus Christ:>> Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.
Firstly it doesn't say anything about human kind inheriting God's intelligence. It says "Then the Lord God said, Behold, the man has become like one of Us, to know good and evil. And now, lest he put out his hand and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever” Knowing good and evil is a long ways from inheriting the intelligence of God. Scriptures teach that "sin and death" was what Adam passed on. And I already gave you the passages that tell us this.
Secondly the scriptures do not talk about any other "sub" human (prehistoric man) or "water people." God created one race of man and gave them "intelligence" and dominion over all the rest of creation. Death did not exist in the universe until Adam sinned. "Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned" (Rom. 5:12) "For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead." (1Cor. 15:21)
This death is not just the death that effected humanity. It was a spiritual death that happened that day to mankind, and also a physical death that effected all of creation. "Then to Adam He said, Because you have heeded the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree of which I commanded you, saying, ‘You shall not eat of it’: Cursed is the ground for your sake; In toil you shall eat of it all the days of your life. Both thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you, And you shall eat the herb of the field." (Gen. 3:17-18)
"For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now." (Rom. 8:19-22)
lol! <opens eyes unlike a fundamentalist & looks around just a little>....That's because the evidence is missing. Tell us HOW and WHEN mindless Nature put the superior intelligence of God into Apes. You cannot. Neither can you show us genetically HOW Humans changed from prehistoric to Human. Your "evidence" depends on your blind Faith in the False ToE. In the end, you will weep and gnash your teeth.
Evolution is taught in school science because it is a valid scientific theory. What you propose is to eliminate science and teach our children information based on your particular religious beliefs with which my religion disagrees.
My point is (and I can repeat this as many times as you want) the Bible is JUST as accurate as a mathematical formula. My son is taking math that only 10% of the people are able to understand. Does that make the formula any less accurate if 90% of the people do not understand the formula? God is always true even if every man is a liar. Because the Bible is not based on man, the Bible is based on God and His authority. God watches over His word to do and to perform what He says He is going to do.Whut?? Where is this in the Bible?? You know it was Men who derived and proved these formulas, right?
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