Prove that links exist

[klutedavid]

There is a vast difference between a Dinosaur and a man. If we are honest with ourselves there must be huge numbers of transitional forms. I have started this thread with the goal of showing there are not these transitions.

Could the Evolutionists in this thread put up links to the best-known transitions. I will not accept something like one example, how many creatures are there in the world? Millions, so we should have millions of transitions.

Also Horse and Dog evolution will not be accepted, due to the fact today we still have varying sizes of Dogs. Any size-based transition will be rejected. For it does not prove a change in type, only a change in size.

The evolution of the whale has been well documented. Look it up on google. They say that the whale started life in the ocean, then became a land animal (a mammal). Then returned to the ocean. So remarkable that I do not believe it.

The explanation of the transitional forms in the evolution of the whale, is pure guesswork.

 

[Astrid]

The mathematical probably of everything that had to specifically resulting from "natural" occurrence(s) that is ... what we see and know of today can't even be calculated ... that's why it's theory.

That has zero (0) to do with theory even if it were true.

 

[klutedavid]

Humans and chimps share a common ancestor. The extinct transitional hominid species are one of the sets of evidence for this:
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During my long life, I have seen all those skull shapes on human shoulders.

 

[Astrid]

That's the weird thing, the theory of evolution is just a conclusion of the evidence of the physical world. It isn't a tenet of some faith, it's just facts about biology that fills in the gaps as to why plants and animals are structured the way they are.

(Also the aggressive arrogance about being non-specifically right, while modern scientific research is wrong comes off as unconvincing as when the Flat-Earthers use the same tactic around here.)

As anything one might show will be ( hystrrically) rejected what we have
here is possibly one of those whose goal is to be able to return to creoland
saying they argued a whole roomful of evolution into the ground,. With
enough arrogance, they may also create sufficient irritation to be able
add that they got -gasp- insultrd.

 

[AV1611VET]

During my long life, I have seen all those skull shapes on human shoulders.

They all have one thing in common: they fought Mike Tyson in the ring.

 

[AV1611VET]

As anything one might show will be ( hystrrically) rejected what we have here is possibly one of those whose goal is to be able to return to creoland saying they argued a whole roomful of evolution into the ground.

Been there / done that.

 

[Astrid]

Xx

 

[Shemjaza]

The evolution of the whale has been well documented. Look it up on google. They say that the whale started life in the ocean, then became a land animal (a mammal). Then returned to the ocean. So remarkable that I do not believe it.

The explanation of the transitional forms in the evolution of the whale, is pure guesswork.

Genetic evidence, fossil evidence of transitional forms. Hardly guesswork.

During my long life, I have seen all those skull shapes on human shoulders.

No, you haven't.

 

[AV1611VET]

No, you haven't.

I'm sure the Israelites did.

 

[Astrid]

Genetic evidence, fossil evidence of transitional forms. Hardly guesswork.

No, you haven't.

It is interesting that so many organisms have returned to an aquatic
or semi aquatic life.

The sea otter is reasonably capable on land but does best at sea.
Sea snakes can barely move on land, tho other snakes are highly
capable in water or land or trees.
Some birds fly very well in air or water, while penguins are laughably
inept on land and sure can't take to the air.

Why any of this is too hard to grasp can only be explained by the sad fact
of minds sealed shut by a truly colossal ego,

 

[AV1611VET]

It is interesting that so many organisms have returned to an aquatic or semi aquatic life.

Why do you find that interesting? and what do you mean by "returned to"?

And why did you refer to sea otters, sea snakes, and penguins as "organisms"?

 

[VirOptimus]

I don't need a peer reviews to have eyes and a brain. Don't leave yours at the door.

I see, well then your views dont matter.

 

[Gene Parmesan]

The OP is definitely in the running for posting one of the most unabashedly bad-faith attempts at an honest discussion that I have seen in my time here. Truly impressive. It's not worth it, folks.

 

[Astrid]

I see, well then your views dont matter.

It's not why they don't matter but, the best of
common sense does need some info to work with.

Not that common sense works with the
counterintuitive.
(Like, heavy things ought to fall faster...)

The way that people think that their common
sense backed by vast ignorance somehow puts
them ahead of every scientist on earth
though- that defies common sense.

So we figure those who believe they know
better than science actually
are lacking common sense.

 

[AV1611VET]

The way that people think that their common sense backed by vast ignorance somehow puts them ahead of every scientist on earth.

I don't cut in front of science.

Science lines up behind me.

 

[Astrid]

The OP is definitely in the running for posting one of the most unabashedly bad-faith attempts at an honest discussion that I have seen in my time here. Truly impressive. It's not worth it, folks.

It is quite a specimen, for sure. Bad faith, and more.
Or less. Is all how you look at it.

In law school they will have "model answers"
gleaned from students, made available for study.

We might want to put this one in a publication
of incredible creo concoctions. (ICC)

 

[FutureAndAHope]

The evolution of the whale has been well documented. Look it up on google. They say that the whale started life in the ocean, then became a land animal (a mammal). Then returned to the ocean. So remarkable that I do not believe it.

The explanation of the transitional forms in the evolution of the whale, is pure guesswork.

I have https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03 and investigated it's counter argument Refuting Evolution chapter 5: Whale evolution? - creation.com

It is interesting that the poster boy of whale evolution was a partial skeleton that contains only a few bone fragments, yet in textbooks is shown as a whale with legs.

Ok, so let's go back to my list:

- You have a group of skulls
- 1 dino bird
- and whale evolution from a few bone fragments

Surely there must be more evidence than that?

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I have https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03 and investigated it's counter argument Refuting Evolution chapter 5: Whale evolution? - creation.com

It is interesting that the poster boy of whale evolution was a partial skeleton that contains only a few bone fragments, yet in textbooks is shown as a whale with legs.

Ok, so let's go back to my list:

- You have a group of skulls
- 1 dino bird
- and whale evolution from a few bone fragments

Surely there must be more evidence than that?

The Ambulocetus skeleton is much less like that and more like this:

 

[AV1611VET]

Bad faith, and more.

So if he changes his mind and believes that missing links are ... well ... non-existent, would that make his bad faith good?

If so, are you saying that evolution is a matter of faith?

 

[Astrid]

I have https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03 and investigated it's counter argument Refuting Evolution chapter 5: Whale evolution? - creation.com

It is interesting that the poster boy of whale evolution was a partial skeleton that contains only a few bone fragments, yet in textbooks is shown as a whale with legs.

Ok, so let's go back to my list:

- You have a group of skulls
- 1 dino bird
- and whale evolution from a few bone fragments

Surely there must be more evidence than that?

We have some evidence of a dishonest presentation.
By you.

There's more than one Ambulocetes skeleton.

Let's see you post a photos that do show front and hind legs.
There's a whole lot more than " a few fragments".

Sometimes living dolphins also have hind legs, so don't be
scared, be honest!

Careful though. Integrity is incompatible
with your presentation.


ETA Our hero skipped out on the challenge.
Surprise surprise.