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I would say that the evidence is stronger in favor of the view that Mary did not give birth to any other children before or after Jesus
IF that were the official position, I suspect none would have even a tiny bit of an issue with it (CERTAINLY not me!). I'm not even sure I disagree with you. But it's de fide dogma. A whole other enchilada.
I acknowledge that even with this evidence there is some ambiguity.
Wow. That's all I have to say about that.... wow!
People have been burned at the stake for less than that, for issues less than de fide dogma.
I left the RCC because I couldn't say "I am CERTAIN to the highest level possible that __________ is a matter of highest importance possible for all persons of the Earth, a matter of greatest certainty of Truth and Fact, a matter that impacts the eternal salvation of souls!" I didn't deny it, I didn't even disagree with it, in a couple of cases, I even saw it as most likely - but because I couldn't (in good conscience) say that later, I was "not Catholic" Again, people have been dispatched to the appointed afterlife a bit ahead of schedule smelling like smoke for a whole lot less than what you've posted concerning issues a whole lot less in status than the Perpetual Virginity of Mary. Things must be VERY different in the EOC... Ah, but a discussion for another day and thread.
BTW, your statement is like that of MANY Lutherans.... Perhaps Lutherans and Orthodox are more alike in other things, too?
So we have a text that we both believe is 100% true, but we don't agree on what it says.
IF you are referring to Luke (and not this false, rejected "protoevangelium") then I disagree with you (respectfully). I think ALL THE WORLD agrees with what it says. It's not hard. Read the words. All of them are very common Greek words. We all agree on what it says.
Is it doctrinal? I would have to say no
Wow. I'm just stunned.
It's far MORE, far far MORE than doctrine. It's de fide DOGMA (at least in the RCC).
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