Do you believe it is merely symbolic, or does it actually change into the Body and Blood?
Anyone is free to take part in this discussion of course, I just put that in the title as I've never really knew the stance of the different churches.
It is symbolic. I remember Christ's death and resurrection every time I eat when I bless my food.
So, it's no different from any other meal?
You're probably not helping those who want to say that it is deeply significant to them even though it is not seen as involving the Real Presence of Christ.
Or, maybe, I look at every meal differently than you. I worship and find rest in God every day of the year, don't you. Or are you limited to worshipping God only on Sunday?
I'm not really sure, some define it that way,Well, Sunlover, the point is just that the wording of Scripture indicates that there's more at work there than symbolism. Exactly what that is, I was not attemting to define for you, but I think you can see that some of the wording suggests more than symbolism or remembrance.
I would suppose each side would feel that way...Of course also, if you don't bother with all the words but instead just cherry-pick the passages, as it looks to me that Optimax did in the verses we were working with, you can MAKE it look like symbolism is the beginning and the end of it.
Do you believe it is merely symbolic, or does it actually change into the Body and Blood?
Anyone is free to take part in this discussion of course, I just put that in the title as I've never really knew the stance of the different churches.
Uh, no one was talking about Sunday worship, ptom. The topic was the nature of the Eucharist/Holy Communion/Lord's Supper. See the title of the thread.
Well I am able to think on two things at the same time, and interweave the two. Sorry if it goes beyond you.
No need to be insulting, ptom. If you think that the Lord's Supper is no different from any meal you take and would pray over, then you are clearly looking at the Lord's Supper as even less significant than those Christians who see the meaning of the sacrament/ordinance as symbolic and nothing more. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, even though we'd probably have to work to find any church that would agree with you.
I think many Protestants would tell you the Lord's Supper, or communion, is far more profound and spiritually deeper than just a symbolic occurrence... but that the piece of bread and glass of juice or wine happen to be just what they are... some bread and drink, purchased at the store.
No need to be insulting, ptom. If you think that the Lord's Supper is no different from any meal you take and would pray over, then you are clearly looking at the Lord's Supper as even less significant than those Christians who see the meaning of the sacrament/ordinance as symbolic and nothing more. Of course, you are entitled to your opinion, even though we'd probably have to work to find any church that would agree with you.
Absolutely not!
Do you believe it is merely symbolic, or does it actually change into the Body and Blood?
Anyone is free to take part in this discussion of course, I just put that in the title as I've never really knew the stance of the different churches.
Way to think outside the box.Transubstantiation happens in the believer where the Holy Spirit of Christ dwells.
Bread is bread and wine is wine.
Jesus Christ came to change us and not bread and wine to something else.
Only crazy monkeys in dark shades can't see past this point. I am sure most humans can.
Protestants: What do you believe happens when you take communion?
Transubstantiation happens in the believer where the Holy Spirit of Christ dwells.
Bread is bread and wine is wine.
Jesus Christ came to change us and not bread and wine to something else.
Only crazy monkeys in dark shades can't see past this point. I am sure most humans can.
Does that reply means that nothing happens when you take and eat the bread and take and drink the liquid in the cup?
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