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seekingpurity047 said:Might I just put in my two cents...
All sins are mortal... "For the wages of sin is death..." Rom. 6:23
Pandersen said:I have a priest. His name is Jesus. I confess my sin to Him, and he the Most High Priest.
Baptism is definately commanded... but necessary? The thief on the cross was not baptised yet saved by Christ.
Is sin that leads to death the only sin that has to be confessed to a priest? If so how is this sin defined? Annanias and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit, which caused their death. Are thier others? They had no opportunity to confess to the priest before dying. Would habitual sin of any kind fall into this category? It has also been said here and agreed to by many that Jesus is our High Priest and the theif recieved special consideration because of his confession directly to the Savior. That being said, would confession to Christ Himself fullfil the command to confess your sin?Ravenchica said:If all sin is one in God's eyes, what is the apostle John getting at when he writes, "If anyone sees his brother commit sin that does not lead to death, he should pray and God will give him life. I refer to those whose sin does not lead to death. There is a sin that leads to death. I am not saying that he should pray about that. All wrongdoing is sin, and there is sin that does not lead to death" (1 John 5:16-17)?
Pandersen said:Is sin that leads to death the only sin that has to be confessed to a priest? If so how is this sin defined?
AMDG said:Mortal sin (sin that leads to spiritual death) needs to be confessed in Sacramental Confession--offense and number of times committed. When I asked the priest for help, he led me through the Ten Commandments. (They aren't so "cut-and-dry" as you might think. Example: Becoming viciously angry at someone is under "Thou shalt not kill", being really into real horoscopes, and magically things or even being too attached to power and money is against "Thou shalt not have any strange gods before me", etc.)
This seems to be a more consistant view of sin from what I see in scripture.
It is only recommended that lesser sins--venial sin (sins out of habit, or lacking one of the three requirements for an offense against God to be "mortal") be confessed because they eventually might lead to mortal sins and then the priest is able to counsel the person so that he/she will perhaps be able to "get rid of them" so they don't.
Could you elaborate here. I tend to think any sin would fall somewhere in the 10 commandments.
When in doubt, ask a priest. Remember, he's on the penitent's side.
How does this apply here?plainswolf said:Even whilst Christ was still walking the earth, He worked within the religious structure:
"And behold a leper came and adored him, saying: Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. 3 And Jesus stretching forth his hand, touched him, saying: I will, be thou made clean. And forthwith his leprosy was cleansed. 4 And Jesus saith to him: "See thou tell no man: but go, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift which Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them." Matt 8:2-4
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Pandersen said:Jesus is doing the healing not the priest. He is a witness
God_of_Mercy said:Thank you all for your replies
Seems like a good idea.
One last question
I think Michelle answered this in another post but about invincible ignorance:
Does one loss their invincible ignorance once they understand Catholic doctrine or recognize it as true?
But you are wrong...a Catholic is not bound to seek forgiveness through confession....one is bound to seek restoration to right relationship with Jesus and His Church in confession. The main sacramental grace of confession is the restoration of sanctifying grace (which can be restored outside of confession, but since we can often be imperfect when we think we are perfect in our contrition--sacramental confession is required before reception of the Eucharist).isshinwhat said:Like most things, one must look at the heart of the matter: why is a Catholic bound to seek forgiveness through Confession?
To begin, it is a dangerous thing for a non-Catholic not to have the gift the Sacrament, as it is the normative means of forgiveness left to the people of God for reconciliation. Perfect contrition (godly sorrow from 1 Cor. 7:9-10) can reconcile us to God, however repentance that is completely free from self-seeking is rare and for the sake of charity and the good of souls must not be depended upon as the regular means by which forgiveness is obtained. This great difficulty we have in leaving our selfishness behind is the reason we were given the Sacrament by Christ.
To answer the question with which this post began, Catholics are bound to seek the Sacrament of Penance out of love, and it is out of charity the Church commands we partake of Reconciliation, as well. Christ, in His great mercy, knows that our motives for seeking reconciliation with God are often mixed, thus He gave us the great Sacrament of Penance and Reconciliation to complete in us what we lack in ourselves.
The question now becomes, why would a Catholic not turn to such a great gift? The answer is pride... selfishness... We have the means to overcome our weakness and be reconciled to God and the Church. If we do not choose to avail ourselves of it, we add to our sins.
Oftentimes it seems as though we believe it is easier for a non-Catholic to get to Heaven through ignorance than a Catholic through right practice of his Faith. This outlook is tragic, and must be corrected. Such misrepresentations are great victories of the Devil and many souls are destroyed through them.
God Bless,
Neal
Our Lady of Prompt Succor, hasten to help us!
Do you have scriptures to back this up? Thanks.Dominus Fidelis said:Priests have the power to forgive sins. To say sins can be forgiven without a priest is to cheapen and make useless the Sacrament.
It would be like saying baptism isnt necessary.
The relevant Scriptures supporting the power of priests to forgive and the requisite nature of Baptism are posted in the FAQ sticky at the top of the forum, I'm pretty sure.christinepro said:Do you have scriptures to back this up? Thanks.
christinepro said:Do you have scriptures to back this up? Thanks.
Thank you.Dominus Fidelis said:Sure, here is a fraction...
"You made them a kingdom and priests for our God, and they will reign on earth" - Revelation 5:10
"Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me." - Luke 10:16
"And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, "Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained." - John 22:22-23
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