Protestant errors and inventions (3)

[Isatis]

I could rebuke the pope if I felt it necessary. What's your point?

Can you rebuke the pope?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Can you rebuke the pope?

Sure you can. Mind you, you'd need to have a decent reason for doing so. But the same goes for anybody else.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

Originally Posted by Isatis

Can you rebuke the pope?
​

Sure.


Contact the pope, Pope Francis
Contact the Pope

The Pope’s regular mailing address is:
His Holiness, Pope Francis
Apostolic Palace
00120 Vatican City

Pope Francis does not have a public email address.

 

[Isatis]

His Holiness, Pope Francis

His Holiness? That hurt my protestant eyes.

 

[Isatis]

The honorific His Holiness (Latin Sanctitas) is the official style used to address the Roman Catholic Pope and the Greek Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch. In February 2013, the Vatican announced that Pope Benedict XVI will retain the style "His Holiness" after resigning and becoming Pope Emeritus. The term is sometimes abbreviated or "HH" or "H.H." when confusion with "His/Her Highness" is unlikely. The associated form of address is "Your Holiness".

His Holiness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him? Holy Father or Your Holiness?

 

[MoreCoffee]

His Holiness? That hurt my protestant eyes.

The honorific His Holiness (Latin Sanctitas) is the official style used to address the Roman Catholic Pope and the Greek Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch. In February 2013, the Vatican announced that Pope Benedict XVI will retain the style "His Holiness" after resigning and becoming Pope Emeritus. The term is sometimes abbreviated or "HH" or "H.H." when confusion with "His/Her Highness" is unlikely. The associated form of address is "Your Holiness".

His Holiness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him? Holy Father or Your Holiness?

Dear Isatis, neither you nor I need worry too much about that because we are not likely to meet him face to face. And your protestant vocal chords and protestant tongue will probably never utter those sounds

 

[bbbbbbb]

Well, OP established a list of 9 protestant errors and inventions FIVE YEARS AGO here http://www.christianforums.com/t7291830/#post48812223.

And now, that list consists of 57 errors and inventions. I wonder why.

Primarily because brother MoreCoffee decided to toss in various aberrant beliefs and practices common only to the outer fringes of Protestantism.

 

[Isatis]

Primarily because brother MoreCoffee decided to toss in various aberrant beliefs and practices common only to the outer fringes of Protestantism.

I noticed that. It should be the other way round. Work on major points of contention between Catholics and Protestants, and from there deal with the details, when needed.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I noticed that. It should be the other way round. Work on major points of contention between Catholics and Protestants, and from there deal with the details, when needed.

I agree. These peripheral items seem to be a smoke screen for more substantive discussion.

 

[GodsGirlToday61]

The honorific His Holiness (Latin Sanctitas) is the official style used to address the Roman Catholic Pope and the Greek Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarch. In February 2013, the Vatican announced that Pope Benedict XVI will retain the style "His Holiness" after resigning and becoming Pope Emeritus. The term is sometimes abbreviated or "HH" or "H.H." when confusion with "His/Her Highness" is unlikely. The associated form of address is "Your Holiness".

His Holiness - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him? Holy Father or Your Holiness?

I followed a Forumer and found this Thread. I am in a silly mood, though I take all Brothers and Sisters in Christ seriously, so when I saw 'So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him?' I immediately thought, in words;

Your Magisterium

I looked it up, and the grammar is questionable, but I am 'holler-rooted', so what the heck, I would bow reverently to Pope Francis and think (not say), 'Your Maisterium', make an awkward sign of the cross, stutter, 'And also to you' before he said, 'Peace be unto you', as I am not a cradle Catholic, look at him with such gratitude for his humbleness and guidance that he wouldn't mind anything I said, and then be rushed away by some button-down upper-handed whatever-you-call-em...

Carolyn, backs out of Thread, smiling like a goofer (yes, a goofer; it's a really handy term, if you're me).

 

[bbbbbbb]

I followed a Forumer and found this Thread. I am in a silly mood, though I take all Brothers and Sisters in Christ seriously, so when I saw 'So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him?' I immediately thought, in words;

Your Magisterium

I looked it up, and the grammar is questionable, but I am 'holler-rooted', so what the heck, I would bow reverently to Pope Francis and think (not say), 'Your Maisterium', make an awkward sign of the cross, stutter, 'And also to you' before he said, 'Peace be unto you', as I am not a cradle Catholic, look at him with such gratitude for his humbleness and guidance that he wouldn't mind anything I said, and then be rushed away by some button-down upper-handed whatever-you-call-em...

Carolyn, backs out of Thread, smiling like a goofer (yes, a goofer; it's a really handy term, if you're me).

You mean these guys?

 

[GodsGirlToday61]

You mean these guys?

uhhhhhh, stutters and then says:

Here is my mood and manner in front of Pope Francis:

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/...z3fRrkBoiEJ8-vvH-qcJacdAlI2dVn-PBz3XwHCmMNPOA



I do wish I could meet of y'all in person; I would surprise many, perhaps; and I love to be surprised, in a good way, myself.

~ Carolyn

 

[tadoflamb]

Primarily because brother MoreCoffee decided to toss in various aberrant beliefs and practices common only to the outer fringes of Protestantism.

If the Protestant Church had some self-definition of itself this wouldn't be an issue. But since it only exists invisibly and can only exist invisibly that can't happen. Therefore, while it's easy to see where Protestantism begins, it's more difficult to discern where it ends. Thus the question: When is a protestant not a protestant?

When referring to the 'outer fringes of protestantism', in the face of the absence of a formal answer from the 'Protestant Church', is it safe to assume that those on the 'outer fringes of protestantism' are those whose beliefs and practices are those who have deviated most from the Catholic Church?

If not, then where's the standard? What's authentic protestantism?

 

[tadoflamb]

I followed a Forumer and found this Thread. I am in a silly mood, though I take all Brothers and Sisters in Christ seriously, so when I saw 'So, when you talk to the Pope, how do you refer to him?' I immediately thought, in words;

Your Magisterium

I looked it up, and the grammar is questionable, but I am 'holler-rooted', so what the heck, I would bow reverently to Pope Francis and think (not say), 'Your Maisterium', make an awkward sign of the cross, stutter, 'And also to you' before he said, 'Peace be unto you', as I am not a cradle Catholic, look at him with such gratitude for his humbleness and guidance that he wouldn't mind anything I said, and then be rushed away by some button-down upper-handed whatever-you-call-em...

Carolyn, backs out of Thread, smiling like a goofer (yes, a goofer; it's a really handy term, if you're me).

Reps for your usage and correct spelling of 'magisterium'.



God bless!

 

[Albion]

If the Protestant Church had some self-definition of itself this wouldn't be an issue.

If there were a "the Protestant Church."

When referring to the 'outer fringes of protestantism', in the face of the absence of a formal answer from the 'Protestant Church', is it safe to assume that those on the 'outer fringes of protestantism' are those whose beliefs and practices are those who have deviated most from the Catholic Church?

If not, then where's the standard? What's authentic protestantism?

The point is that your unfunny list of acts and beliefs doesn't describe Protestantism. It describes SOME, a few, Protestants--just like Catholics believe amulets and "holy water" can ward off demons, burying a statue of St. Joseph upside down will get your house sold, or the bread actually bleeds when the priest raises it up for people to worship.

 

[Rev Randy]

I agree. These peripheral items seem to be a smoke screen for more substantive discussion.

Then boot the fringe groups from being Protestant You mean they should not be addressed as Protestants because they don't believe exactly like your group?
This could get real confusing as I was thinking about adding Oneness
Pentecostalism as it arose out of Protestantism..

 

[MoreCoffee]

I noticed that. It should be the other way round. Work on major points of contention between Catholics and Protestants, and from there deal with the details, when needed.

But aren't a good number of the elements in the list "major" items in Protestantism? Things like a 66 book bible, sola scriptura, and sola fide? And isn't it reasonable to mention the beliefs of one of the major branches of the Protestant revolt, that is Calvinism? It would also be reasonable to bring to the fore the various aberrant views expressed in the statements of some main-line churches, would it not?

I included some doctrines supported by groups such as Seventh Day Adventists because they have approximately 14,000,000 members. Other groups, such as Seventh Day Baptists, share some SDA beliefs. And some beliefs are held in a widely varying group called non-denominational, should they not be mentioned?

It's been said numerous times that the list is not a set consensus doctrines held by all Protestants because such a list probably cannot be drawn up without at least some groups objecting to one or several elements. After all, are there not numerous debates between Protestants about what is "essential to salvation"? If Protestants cannot reach consensus on what is essential to salvation then doesn't it follow that listing the variant beliefs of the various groups is both reasonable and fair?

Nobody is asserting that every Protestant, non-denominational, evangelical, or emerging church chap believes everything in the list.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Then boot the fringe groups from being Protestant You mean they should not be addressed as Protestants because they don't believe exactly like your group?
This could get real confusing as I was thinking about adding Oneness
Pentecostalism as it arose out of Protestantism..

I think Oneness is mentioned at the end of the list,

#57 Oneness (denying the Trinity) - some might think this is a non-christian sect's doctrine while others are inclined to believe that Oneness Pentecostalism is within the confines of Christianity.​

 

[Rev Randy]

I think Oneness is mentioned at the end of the list,

#57 Oneness (denying the Trinity) - some might think this is a non-christian sect's doctrine while others are inclined to believe that Oneness Pentecostalism is within the confines of Christianity.​

Missed that. Seems you listed all the good ones. I must review the list to see if you got the snakehandlers but I think they are dying out

 

[MoreCoffee]

Missed that. Seems you listed all the good ones. I must review the list to see if you got the snakehandlers but I think they are dying out

I am sure that there are many many more errors and inventions to be added. So many that I believe the post length limit would easily be exceeded if all of them were listed.