Protestant errors and inventions (3)

[MoreCoffee]

Here's another two for the list of errors:

CHILDREN TEACHING THEOLOGY and ADULTS SWALLOWING IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER

TO SAVE SOULS, DEVOTE YOURSELF TO AN ENTITY CALLED IMMACULATE HEART

"I have seen hell where the souls of poor sinners go. To save them, God wishes to establish in the world devotion to my Immaculate Heart.
Our Lady of Fátima - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Is this desperation I see? You're importing material from the thread about Fatima into this thread? Why?

Oh yes, the caps-lock text in the above quote has nothing whatever to do with anything in this thread nor are those caps-lock words an accurate representation of anything said by the children at Fatima. Please cease the irrelevant and inaccurate cross-posting of material from another thread in this thread.

 

[Albion]

Originally Posted by tadoflamb View Post:
Congregations electing their pastor.

Well, we certainly wouldn't want the people to just blindly trust whomever is leading them, now would we?

And, in practice, it's not as simple as that.

Yes, a Protestant invention. That's why we send up white smoke signals if we've chosen a new leader and black smoke, caused by burning the ballots, if no candidate has gotten the requisite votes. Ultimately, we send a little man out onto the balcony to announce the results.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Originally Posted by tadoflamb View Post:
Congregations electing their pastor.

Yes, a Protestant invention. That's why we send up white smoke signals if we've chosen a new leader and black smoke, caused by burning the ballots, if no candidate has gotten the requisite votes. Ultimately, we send a little man out onto the balcony to announce the results.

I've seen the man come out on the balcony, he looks normal size to me. Where'd you get the idea that he was little? Or is that a reflection on his character or something?

 

[Tzaousios]

Yes, a Protestant invention. That's why we send up white smoke signals if we've chosen a new leader and black smoke, caused by burning the ballots, if no candidate has gotten the requisite votes. Ultimately, we send a little man out onto the balcony to announce the results.

Sounds about right when the Moral Majority's candidates won office back in the 80's and 90's.

 

[Standing Up]

Is this desperation I see? You're importing material from the thread about Fatima into this thread? Why?

Oh yes, the caps-lock text in the above quote has nothing whatever to do with anything in this thread nor are those caps-lock words an accurate representation of anything said by the children at Fatima. Please cease the irrelevant and inaccurate cross-posting of material from another thread in this thread.

Sure it does, many Protestants practice this error of devotion to a Sacred Heart.

Here's another for your list of Protestant errors:

EUCHARISTIC ADORATION, the belief that the bread is Christ.
Eucharistic adoration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Standing Up]

In looking at these things about visions of sacred hearts, their sources are women who had visions. So add this to your list.

THEOLOGY BASED ON WOMEN'S VISIONS

 

[MoreCoffee]

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Here's another for your list of Protestant errors:

EUCHARISTIC ADORATION, the belief that the bread is Christ.
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Alas, it is not an error nor, as far as I know, anything that typically is taught among Protestants.

Good try

What's next?

 

[MoreCoffee]

In looking at these things about visions of sacred hearts, their sources are women who had visions. So add this to your list.

THEOLOGY BASED ON WOMEN'S VISIONS

Got something against women?

 

[Standing Up]

Alas, it is not an error nor, as far as I know, anything that typically is taught among Protestants.

Good try

What's next?

Play fair. You've been told over and over that many of your "errors" are taught at the fringes.

Anyway, if you read the quote, you'll see which Protestants practice the error of adoring/worshipping the created, rather than the Creator.

 

[Standing Up]

Got something against women?

Heheh. I figured that was coming from someone who doesn't get it. Man or woman teacher, we have a standard called the bible against which we judge visions and teachings.

The error is to accept the teaching by women (not a female per se, but a woman apart from the church (in Christ, neither male/female). Paul mentions plenty of women.). Got it?

 

[MoreCoffee]

Play fair. You've been told over and over that many of your "errors" are taught at the fringes.

Anyway, if you read the quote, you'll see which Protestants practice the error of adoring/worshipping the created, rather than the Creator.

Yes, many are taught at the fringes but since many are members of the fringes and like their fringe views who am I to discount them? Besides, when one looks at the development of protestant denominationalism one is forced to conclude that the fringes extend almost all the way to the centre. So I reckon we'll keep the fringe elements in the list for as long as Protestant folk keep the fringe elements under their umbrella ... let us know when you expel them

 

[MoreCoffee]

In looking at these things about visions of sacred hearts, their sources are women who had visions. So add this to your list.

THEOLOGY BASED ON WOMEN'S VISIONS

Got something against women?

Heheh. I figured that was coming from someone who doesn't get it. Man or woman teacher, we have a standard called the bible against which we judge visions and teachings.

The error is to accept the teaching by women (not a female per se, but a woman apart from the church (in Christ, neither male/female). Paul mentions plenty of women.). Got it?

One shouldn't write it if one does not mean it; tell us what is so dreadful about theology based on what a woman sees in a vision. I reckon that there are a few visions seen by women in Christian history and maybe in the bible too - even that shortened 66 book version some folk use

 

[Standing Up]

One shouldn't write it if one does not mean it; tell us what is so dreadful about theology based on what a woman sees in a vision. I reckon that there are a few visions seen by women in Christian history and maybe in the bible too - even that shortened 66 book version some folk use

You didn't get it. The point isn't about the woman per se, but about women or men whose visions don't agree with Christian theology. There's nothing wrong with women who teach the same as Paul taught. There is a problem with women who teach salvation by devotion to the immaculate heart.

Perhaps this will help you: Do you reject Ellen White (SDA) because she's a woman or because she contradicts your theology?

 

[Standing Up]

Yes, many are taught at the fringes but since many are members of the fringes and like their fringe views who am I to discount them? Besides, when one looks at the development of protestant denominationalism one is forced to conclude that the fringes extend almost all the way to the centre. So I reckon we'll keep the fringe elements in the list for as long as Protestant folk keep the fringe elements under their umbrella ... let us know when you expel them

Okay by me. So, you can add these things to your list of Protestant errors:

Devotion to a Sacred Heart of "Mary".

EUCHARISTIC ADORATION, the belief that the bread is Christ. (the worship of the created, rather than the Creator)
Eucharistic adoration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[ImaginaryDay]

Well, we certainly wouldn't want the people to just blindly trust whomever is leading them, now would we?

And, in practice, it's not as simple as that.

Originally Posted by tadoflamb View Post:
Congregations electing their pastor.


Yes, a Protestant invention. That's why we send up white smoke signals if we've chosen a new leader and black smoke, caused by burning the ballots, if no candidate has gotten the requisite votes. Ultimately, we send a little man out onto the balcony to announce the results.

What I mean is that the quote reveals the ignorance (i.e. unlearned nature) of the Protestant Pastoral search process. It's hardly a 'show of hands' thing.

 

[ImaginaryDay]

I've seen the man come out on the balcony, he looks normal size to me. Where'd you get the idea that he was little? Or is that a reflection on his character or something?

Must be. We do have some real characters in our midst...

 

[MoreCoffee]

... The point isn't about the woman per se, but about women or men whose visions don't agree with Christian theology.

Whose christian theology would that be? One of the fringe groups? A broader group? Your own?

There's nothing wrong with women who teach the same as Paul taught. There is a problem with women who teach salvation by devotion to the immaculate heart.

Perhaps this will help you: Do you reject Ellen White (SDA) because she's a woman or because she contradicts your theology?

The rest of your post is a red herring which is not worth following.

 

[MoreCoffee]

Okay by me. So, you can add these things to your list of Protestant errors:

Devotion to a Sacred Heart of "Mary".

EUCHARISTIC ADORATION, the belief that the bread is Christ. (the worship of the created, rather than the Creator)
Eucharistic adoration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Seems to me that Jesus Christ is the creator so worshipping him is worshipping the creator. Have you read Colossians 1:15-20?

He is the image of the invisible God, the first-born of every creature. For in him was created everything in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or dominations, or principalities, or powers. All things were created through him and in him. And he is before all, and in him all things continue. And he is the head of his body, the Church. He is the beginning, the first-born from the dead, so that in all things he may hold primacy. For the Father is well-pleased that all fullness reside in him, and that, through him, all things be reconciled to himself, making peace through the blood of his cross, for the things that are on earth, as well as the things that are in heaven.​

 

[tadoflamb]

Play fair. You've been told over and over that many of your "errors" are taught at the fringes.

How do we know where the fringes are? Up to this point, as far as I can tell, if you deviate a little bit from Catholicism you're a protestant. If you deviate a lot from Catholicism, you're on the fringes. And, coming to think of it, I don't believe you're a protestant. Are you a protestant?

 

[tadoflamb]

Well, we certainly wouldn't want the people to just blindly trust whomever is leading them, now would we?

And, in practice, it's not as simple as that.

I don't know. This seems to fall in the line with the protestant invention of church shopping until you can find a denomination whose beliefs are most in line with yours. In other words, let's hire a pastor who agrees with us. As a Catholic the concept is entirely foreign to me and I wonder how the sola scripturist would defend this extra-biblical practice.