Proposition 8 overturned in California

[salida]

The judge is 100% incorrect because he is ignoring the majority rule.

 

[onemorequestion]

The judge is 100% incorrect because he is ignoring the majority rule.

So does every Christian that has ever lived.

Hey, the guy had his chance to implement his goals on all. On that Christians do not have the same power. But at least we know it was a gay guy that did this thing. Not us.

 

[selfinflikted]

The judge is 100% incorrect because he is ignoring the majority rule.

Wrong. Read the decision, and read the thread. You'll then see why you're wrong.

Am I not the model Conservative Christian in your eyes?

 

[selfinflikted]

So does every Christian that has ever lived.

Hey, the guy had his chance to implement his goals on all. On that Christians do not have the same power. But at least we know it was a gay guy that did this thing. Not us.

No, we don't know that. I've heard you allege several times that the judge is gay, but as far as I'm aware, he isn't.

 

[Zaac]

So does every Christian that has ever lived.

Hey, the guy had his chance to implement his goals on all. On that Christians do not have the same power. But at least we know it was a gay guy that did this thing. Not us.

I guess I need to go back and read who is gay.

 

[Skaloop]

The judge is 100% incorrect because he is ignoring the majority rule.

Actually, in this situation, ignoring the majority rule is why he's correct.

 

[Skaloop]

No, we don't know that. I've heard you allege several times that the judge is gay, but as far as I'm aware, he isn't.

I do believe the judge is gay. The relevance of that, however, remains to be seen. Yes, obviously, a gay man ruling on a gay issue has the window dressing of bias, but this is a professional member of the judiciary who has served for many years. One doesn't get to his position by relying on bias.

Straight people rule on straight issues, men rule on male issues, women rule on female issues, black people rule on black issues, etc. etc. all the time. It is very rare that bias is alleged in these situations to the same degree as it is in this one.

And while he may be gay, he is also a conservative judge appointed by a Republican president (and nominated once before that, but rejected as being too conservative). Not sure why his personal bias would outweight his political bias.

 

[onemorequestion]

Wrong. Read the decision, and read the thread. You'll then see why you're wrong.

Was I writing to you?

No, I wasn't.

Look, a gay guy found himslelf in the position of power and authority over every person in California and took his shot.

 

[Zaac]

I do believe the judge is gay. The relevance of that, however, remains to be seen. Yes, obviously, a gay man ruling on a gay issue has the window dressing of bias, but this is a professional member of the judiciary who has served for many years. One doesn't get to his position by relying on bias.

Straight people rule on straight issues, men rule on male issues, women rule on female issues, black people rule on black issues, etc. etc. all the time. It is very rare that bias is alleged in these situations to the same degree as it is in this one.

And while he may be gay, he is also a conservative judge appointed by a Republican president (and nominated once before that, but rejected as being too conservative). Not sure why his personal bias would outweight his political bias.

So the judge is gay. Now that may or may not be that much of an issue. If it affected his ability to be impartial, it's an issue. But there are straight judges who no doubt do the same thing.

 

[Gishin]

Was I writing to you?

No, I wasn't.

Look, a gay guy found himslelf in the position of power and authority over every person in California and took his shot.

You're wrong, and I'm talking to you.

 

[Gishin]

So the judge is gay. Now that may or may not be that much of an issue. If it affected his ability to be impartial, it's an issue. But there are straight judges who no doubt do the same thing.

I'm honestly pleasantly surprised you're approaching the issue this way.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

So the judge is gay. Now that may or may not be that much of an issue. If it affected his ability to be impartial, it's an issue. But there are straight judges who no doubt do the same thing.

This is true. And, given the arguments in favor of Prop 8, it was as much a heterosexual thing as it was a homosexual thing so the same bias could be held by a heterosexual judge making the ruling.

 

[Mling]

I do believe the judge is gay. The relevance of that, however, remains to be seen. Yes, obviously, a gay man ruling on a gay issue has the window dressing of bias, but this is a professional member of the judiciary who has served for many years. One doesn't get to his position by relying on bias.

Straight people rule on straight issues, men rule on male issues, women rule on female issues, black people rule on black issues, etc. etc. all the time. It is very rare that bias is alleged in these situations to the same degree as it is in this one.

And while he may be gay, he is also a conservative judge appointed by a Republican president (and nominated once before that, but rejected as being too conservative). Not sure why his personal bias would outweight his political bias.

Replace "president" with "governor" and that also describes 2/3 of the Massachusetts supreme court, when they legalized gay marriage.

Makes me wonder why people blame "liberals" for all of this.

 

[selfinflikted]

I do believe the judge is gay. The relevance of that, however, remains to be seen. Yes, obviously, a gay man ruling on a gay issue has the window dressing of bias, but this is a professional member of the judiciary who has served for many years. One doesn't get to his position by relying on bias.

Straight people rule on straight issues, men rule on male issues, women rule on female issues, black people rule on black issues, etc. etc. all the time. It is very rare that bias is alleged in these situations to the same degree as it is in this one.

And while he may be gay, he is also a conservative judge appointed by a Republican president (and nominated once before that, but rejected as being too conservative). Not sure why his personal bias would outweight his political bias.

Why do you believe he is gay? The only one I've heard saying that so far is OMQ. But I agree with you. His sexual orientation is completely irrelevant. I read the decision (the WHOLE thing) and I didn't detect a shred of bias. In fact, it looked to me like the judge went out of his way for the defense...

Was I writing to you?

No, I wasn't.

Look, a gay guy found himslelf in the position of power and authority over every person in California and took his shot.

 

[Zaac]

I'm honestly pleasantly surprised you're approaching the issue this way.

I don't know why.

A lot of gay people and those who support them in their anti-Biblical everything are CONSTANTLY going on about how the Christian belief system should not be forced upon them by Christians or the law because this is not a theocracy.

But now, lo and behold a supposedly gay judge comes along and starts legislating his belief system and all the gays and their supporters cheer?

I find this incredibly interesting.

 

[Skaloop]

Was I writing to you?

And he wasn't writing to you.

But, having other people enter into discussions is what these kind of forums are all about. That's why anyone can respond to anyone else.

 

[Archer93]

Why do you believe he is gay? The only one I've heard saying that so far is OMQ. But I agree with you. His sexual orientation is completely irrelevant. I read the decision (the WHOLE thing) and I didn't detect a shred of bias. In fact, it looked to me like the judge went out of his way for the defense...

He is. But he's never made it an issue. And he didn't bother to out himself when being accused of being anti-gay.

Gay judge has proven record of impartiality - SFGate
Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial - SFGate

 

[Skaloop]

Why do you believe he is gay? The only one I've heard saying that so far is OMQ.

It gets mentioned a lot in editorial articles about the matter. And it was known when he took on the case, too.

Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial - SFGate

There's one link that talks about it, from the start of the trial.

 

[Archer93]

I don't know why.

A lot of gay people and those who support them in their anti-Biblical everything are CONSTANTLY going on about how the Christian belief system should not be forced upon them by Christians or the law because this is not a theocracy.

But now, lo and behold a supposedly gay judge comes along and starts legislating his belief system and all the gays and their supporters cheer?

I find this incredibly interesting.

Being gay isn't a belief system.

 

[selfinflikted]

It gets mentioned a lot in editorial articles about the matter. And it was known when he took on the case, too.

Judge being gay a nonissue during Prop. 8 trial - SFGate

There's one link that talks about it, from the start of the trial.

Well, ok then. He is gay.