Prophets?

superdave · Dec 24, 2003

Is Anyone here have the gift of prophecy? I believe I do sometimes... I have forseen things that have happened- I have confirmed words through people- I have prophetically gone into warafare unaware that the Church Intercessory Team was praying the same thing. Does anyone else have this gift?

I have been given lots of prophecies... and alot have came true, some are in the making. So I believe it's a true thing!

Anthony · Dec 25, 2003

superdave said:
Is Anyone here have the gift of prophecy? I believe I do sometimes... I have forseen things that have happened- I have confirmed words through people- I have prophetically gone into warafare unaware that the Church Intercessory Team was praying the same thing. Does anyone else have this gift?

I have been given lots of prophecies... and alot have came true, some are in the making. So I believe it's a true thing!

Prophet or Psychic?

Prophets don't predict or forseen just any future event, no matter how spiritually connected they may be. Bible Prophets and the Gift of Prophecy deal with God's message on what HE is planning in the future.

If everyone who predicted the future accurately was a prophet then what would that say about psychics? Also if psychics are prophets, then all psychics would have to be Christians, because the Holy Spirit wouldn't give the gift of prophecy to non-Christians.

IKTCA · Dec 25, 2003

sOuLifieD · Dec 25, 2003

superdave said:
Is Anyone here have the gift of prophecy?

yes.

SpiritPsalmist · Dec 25, 2003

I operate in the prophetic.

Crosslight · Dec 26, 2003

Greetings,

The Lord has prophets today, and He has the gift of prophecy very active today.

These things are as the Lord sees fit to give, when, how, and why. I will give an example of walking in the prophetic for me today. Sort of shook me up, but I was very greatful and also blessed to be able to share it.

I was outside on my deck studying and praying over the work the Lord did through John Lake, just pondering and seeking. I looked up and over at the train tracks that cross the street nearby. I see that track everyday and never even think anything about it except.. LOUD..
Anyway, today I saw, with my eyes still open, it was like a car got caught by just a part of the car with the train and dragged down the tracks.. doing all kinds of damage. I just blurted out.. NO WAy, I don't think so. Lord... ???

I didn't think about it anymore. Later today, about 4 hours later, a young woman ran off the road right at the spot. No one was hurt, but the car was lodged in a small ditch with the end of it just a couple of feet from the tracks. As help was on the way, a train came. It passed by the car within inches, but never touched it.

The young lady seems to have borrowed the car and was all upset, crying so hard, that she had hurt the car... when the train came, she nearly paniced..

In the long run, there was a scratch on the car from the tree nearby.. maybe some wheel damage underneath ????

This is the prophetic... or one little simple example. The vision sent me to prayer and declaration.. be it ever so simple.

I know things worked out much better by what the Lord revealed. And since I am in a learning stage.. it served as a good "lesson" and to build up confidence in the Lord's ability to interact with us today.

Hope this helps.
Shalom
stacie

Anthony · Dec 26, 2003

Crosslight said:
Greetings,

This is the prophetic... or one little simple example. The vision sent me to prayer and declaration.. be it ever so simple.

Stacie

That was a great psychic experience, but it is not an example of the gift of prophecy. Prophecy is something totally different. The gift of prophecy is not predicting or seeing common future events. Prophecy is not to be equated to being Psychic. Also being Christian and being psychic doesn't make you a prophet.

Crosslight · Dec 26, 2003

Some call it intercession...

An open eyed vision of a problem..
A prayer for intervention
An answer to that prayer
A saint edified and being prepared a little more to trust and believe the Lord.

Psyc = mind...

this was not in my mind, and the devil did not warn me..
I was before the Lord on other issues and received this one..

Nonetheless... all have been blessed.

His servant
stacie

Svt4Him · Dec 26, 2003

Anthony said:
Stacie

That was a great psychic experience, but it is not an example of the gift of prophecy. Prophecy is something totally different. The gift of prophecy is not predicting or seeing common future events. Prophecy is not to be equated to being Psychic. Also being Christian and being psychic doesn't make you a prophet.

Being psychic? Hmmm. The gift of propehcy isn't seeing future events? Well, actually it could be.

Hobo No More · Dec 27, 2003

Revelations is full of prophecies that tell of future events. Therefore, prophecy does include predicting future events. Isaiah is full of prophecies about Jesus and what would happen to him. There was something like a 500 year gap between Isaiah and Jesus so Isaiah did predict the future.

Anthony · Dec 27, 2003

Hobo No More said:
Revelations is full of prophecies that tell of future events. Therefore, prophecy does include predicting future events. Isaiah is full of prophecies about Jesus and what would happen to him. There was something like a 500 year gap between Isaiah and Jesus so Isaiah did predict the future.

What kind of future events?

They are not same type of psychic events which, people who are claiming to be prophetic are. The Bible has prophets and prophetic statements, warnings, etc. Prophetic statement deal with major events; dealing and about God's warnings and/or message. Or as often the case to repeat what he has already told us. God gave a view of what He was and is planning. God gave the Big Picture.

God is not Nostradamus.

Nostradamus was not a Christian Prophet, yet he certainly predicted future events. Jonathan Edwards is not a Prophet, yet he can provide some helpful, consoling information to people. Jean Dixion is not a Christian Prophet.

Andrew · Dec 27, 2003

Prophesying does include revealing what lies ahead...whether its something 'small' or 'big'...

Acts 21

10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus.
11 And when he was come unto us, he took Pauls girdle, and bound his own hands and feet, and said, Thus saith the Holy Ghost, So shall the Jews at Jerusalem bind the man that owneth this girdle, and shall deliver him into the hands of the Gentiles.
12 And when we heard these things, both we, and they of that place, besought him not to go up to Jerusalem.

Svt4Him · Dec 27, 2003

Anthony said:
Nostradamus was not a Christian Prophet, yet he certainly predicted future events.

Are you sure about this? And God is not Nostradamus?

Hobo No More · Dec 27, 2003

Andrew is right in saying that Prophecies predict what lies ahead whether on a big or small scale.
Isaiah forsaw (if that is a word) that Jesus would ride on a donkey as a King through Jerusalem. He was given a prophecy of what was to lie ahead. If at the time we had heard that a King was going to ride through Jerusalem on a donkey we wouldn't think that it was something of a big scale event. My point is that superdave or anyone else who have forseen events that have happened we honestly don't know the scale of what God has shared.

SpiritPsalmist · Dec 27, 2003

Anthony said:
Stacie

That was a great psychic experience, but it is not an example of the gift of prophecy. Prophecy is something totally different. The gift of prophecy is not predicting or seeing common future events. Prophecy is not to be equated to being Psychic. Also being Christian and being psychic doesn't make you a prophet.

I would differ with you a bit on this Anthony. Would you call Daniel's interpretation of Neb's dream psychic? I would think not. I see this as a forwarning from God for our sister to do what she did. . .go to prayer.

Anthony · Dec 27, 2003

Quaffer said:
I would differ with you a bit on this Anthony. Would you call Daniel's interpretation of Neb's dream psychic? I would think not. I see this as a forwarning from God for our sister to do what she did. . .go to prayer.

Quaffer

Your comment is right on point. The key to a prophetic statement is exactly as you stated:

as a forwarning from God

and I would add

to his people (plural)

The problem is today common psychic events, intuition, ESP is being claimed as prophetic.

Anthony · Dec 27, 2003

Hobo No More said:
My point is that superdave or anyone else who have forseen events that have happened we honestly don't know the scale of what God has shared.

True, but that is not what the Bible is referring to when the word prophet or prophecy is used.

cynjo59 · Dec 27, 2003

I asked a knowledgeable man from our church about the spiritual gifts and he told me that knowing something to come in the future or being shown something about someone's past is called the gift of knowledge. I sometimes experience this and I do not call it "psychic". As far as I can tell, "psychics" are what God warned Saul to stay away from. In my own experience, the knowledge can be revealed through dreams or thoughts. Several years ago there was a little girl missing from a community near us. I heard the search party being called out on the scanner and as I listened, the thought came into my mind, "Colon knows where she is- he put her there." That night I dreamed about the last few moments of that little girl's life and what the place looked like where the man had buried her. I saw things in the surrounding area and I was so certain of the accuracy of it all that I sent an annonymous letter to our Sherrif's dept. I never knew what they did with the letter but months later the little girl's body was found in a location that fit my dream description to a t and she had indeed been murdered by the man called Colon. I told my husband about this dream and he was so convinced of its accuracy that we would often go for a drive, looking for a location that fit that description. If we drove by where the little girl used to live I felt this horrible oppressing evil from the driveway of her home down to the next sideroad. As it turned out she was buried right in that area. Had I walked up off of the road, past a little grove of trees I would have seen the place I saw in my dream. I have often wondered if I had gone to those in charge of searching for her, would her body have been found sooner and the man brought to justice sooner for killing her. I have since been speaking out a bit more boldly when something is revealed to me. I think the term "prophecy" applies to God revealing to a person something that He has in store for the future, something that having knowledge of will help more people be saved from damnation.

Anthony · Dec 27, 2003

Svt4Him said:
Are you sure about this? And God is not Nostradamus?

Nostradamus was the assumed name of Michel De Notredame, a French physician-astrologer who flourished in the 16th century A.D.

Being an astrologer doesn't seem to be a past-time of a Christian.

Andrew · Dec 28, 2003

Quaffer

Your comment is right on point. The key to a prophetic statement is exactly as you stated:

as a forwarning from God

1Co 14:3 But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.

not just forewarning. in the NT, even if it is a "forewarning", it shld still include "a way out" so that it is still unto "edification, and exhortation, and comfort.How can warnings from God to his people bring comfort??"

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