Prophecy Question

[tturt]

Could you provide Scripture for the first paragraph?

Actually The Word says: "for our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." Eph 6:12

"Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand. Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness; And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace; Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked. And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;" Eph 6:13-18

 

[Stillicidia]

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[Blade]

Hi Bithia2

Got some awesome replys here praise GOD. For me.. ME.. if GOD told me to tell you something.. you already new 1st. Maybe have the pastor or you or someone else..just sit and chat with her. Talk to her face to face. As to why does she do this and that.. as friends in Christ we are one family. Some just LOVE to hug and anyone..like it or not IN COMING! Haha ..what does love see hear so for so on.. always see the good 1st.. like you are keep praying for her..not your will or what you want.. I think if you or someone just talked .. I really dont like it when you just come up and lay hands on me ..not asking..BIG SMILE.. hehe I dont know.. yet its awesome to have people wanting to do that..you know? Maybe just new in the faith?

 

[bithiah2]

Nothing in times past are gone without the lord.
You were attacked in the spirit, and so you don't have the lord.
You were punished for refusing her.
Do not hate good, and do not hate rejoicing.
When you said "I receive it" you called a bunch of evil against you,
because you received the evil of your past, to dine with it.

You must carry your heart strongly toward the lord seeking forgiveness.
Love him, until you find favor of him, praising, and thanking, and when he chooses to dwell in you,
you're all good.

This is because God finds favor of men, only from their hearts, and words only testify, but it's in the heart.

Dear Stillicidia: For every sentence you have posted here, please get your Bible, if you own one, and give two or three scriptures to support your statements for each. Because all I am reading is a lot of religious platitudes. If you don't know what a platitude is, go look it up in a dictionary. This is comedy!
I speak this in love.
Run along, now...

 

[bithiah2]

Hi Bithia2

Got some awesome replys here praise GOD. For me.. ME.. if GOD told me to tell you something.. you already new 1st. Maybe have the pastor or you or someone else..just sit and chat with her. Talk to her face to face. As to why does she do this and that.. as friends in Christ we are one family. Some just LOVE to hug and anyone..like it or not IN COMING! Haha ..what does love see hear so for so on.. always see the good 1st.. like you are keep praying for her..not your will or what you want.. I think if you or someone just talked .. I really dont like it when you just come up and lay hands on me ..not asking..BIG SMILE.. hehe I dont know.. yet its awesome to have people wanting to do that..you know? Maybe just new in the faith?

she has been addressed by Pastor. she is not to do this anymore because she has mental problems and needs healing and deliverance. they are counseling her.

 

[Stillicidia]

platitudes? you do know no one says what I said. Just read what Hebrews said about Able.

 

[ScottA]

I am very familiar with the prophetic ministry and believe that God has appointed some in the church to be prophets, apostles, evangelists pastors and teachers. I believe that some have the gift of prophecy. I believe that the Gifts of the Spirit are for today. That being said, I have a question/dilemma whatever you want to call it.

At my church, there is a lady who goes around praying for people, she always has a word for them. The first time she spoke a word at intercessory prayer, the person in charge said she was out of order (even though she spoke correctly) because the she spoke about something that the pastor was going to announce before he had the opportunity to speak about it.
After prayer, she ran over to me with her anointing oil and said "God told me to pray for you. I have a word for you" and grabbed my shoulders and proceeded to open her oil. I politely stopped her because I was taught that (1) you are supposed to introduce yourself to someone first, and (2) Ask if you can pray for them and (3) ask if you can lay hands on them. (3) If you are not a minister in the church, you might be out of order. I did not allow her to pray for me because something about her spirit bothered me. She would not look me in the eye for a long time after that. (I'm going somewhere with this and really want some input)
Last Sunday, I was sitting by myself and when she walked by i said "hi" to her, being friendly (big mistake) She came over to me and said "I have been talking to God about you" and she proceeded to tell me about some stuff from my past and so on...I was half listening because the stuff she was talking about has been long dealt with. It didn't need to be brought up. I just looked at her, no response. I really was sorry I spoke to her. I could have got up and walked away but did not want to be rude. So I said thank you, I receive that "(mistake #2).
Later at night, in my sleep, I got attacked in my spirit. It was like something was tearing at my spirit, I had a vision of words and an ark with a hole in it and it was like words were being pulled out of me but something was tearing at me. I could not see the words, they were small. I am a writer. I was breathing fast and it was like being in a tornado and all i could do was be still and let it pass. I was exhausted afterwards. I really feel it had something to do with this lady.
I do have a prayer life, maybe I need to pray more. But this woman bothers me in my spirit. She says she has been trained by some big-name prophets (she named them) but I have been around prophets and they don't bother me in my spirit. Even those who have "arrogant" personalities don't bother me spiritually. But this woman...I don't know if I should talk to the pastor or not.
At prayer, Pastor told everyone to be silent for 30 minutes and meditate on the Lord, read the Word, or journal. 15 minutes had not passed before this lady had to run to the pastor's office to talk to him. I thought silence was for everyone...
What should I do? Sorry this has been so long.
Thank you,
Bithia2

You (we) have the power of God at our disposal. No need to put it on your pastor, and do not meddle. Pray to God in Jesus' name and ask Him to remove her from your life, to cause her and the troublesome spirit to flee. Then, if she confronts you again, tell her that you have turned the matter over to God, in Jesus' name. And you're done.

 

[Razare]

I was half listening because the stuff she was talking about has been long dealt with. It didn't need to be brought up.

That's how satan's prophecy works. If you have ever met a medium or spiritual prophet of the devil this is how they operate. I used to date one, and she was a kind person to me before I was a Christian. While she would get knowledge from the devil about things, she was still a human being and she was nicer than I was at the time (and still is on some of my bad days.)

But you see, when she would tell me "facts" this is how satanic prophecy works. It is a fact you had that stuff happen to you in the past. Who cares? Old things have passed away, all things are new in Christ Jesus.

The last thing God is going to do is start drudging up your past if you are over it. If you're over it, then God is certainly over it. God looks ahead, not behind.

Prophets who are legitimate soothsayers of satan's kingdom, can prophecy almost perfectly, facts. The devil watches an event, writes it down, and it's a fact. Then he goes tells one of these individuals what happened as a game to impress. Sometimes satan gets a future event to happen. But his odds aren't perfect when looking ahead, since that's up to God not him.

Prophecy of God reveals the hidden revelation of God's future oriented wisdom, knowledge, through faith hope and love, to EDIFY.

If she was a real prophet, she would be edifying you, not telling you facts. Facts usually do not edify.

Most ministers I listen to know about "facts" vs. the truth. God is truth, and he calls those things that be not as though they were.

That said, be kind to her. When I became a Christian, one of the things the devil did try to do was give me one of these false spirits to get "revelation". I had to come out of it by just focusing on the word.

And if she was trained by someone, then those other guys probably have the same false spirit and she just inherited the thing.

That sort of spirit is harmless to other Christians if they don't listen to it. It hurts her the worst by being ensnared by it.

I receive that "(mistake #2).
Later at night, in my sleep, I got attacked in my spirit.

Just say, "I no longer receive that." Speak it, mean it. You probably just opened a door for the devil through her false prophecy stuff, when you said, "I receive that."

Also, don't be impressed by what the devil did there. "You felt exhausted." Sure, something happened. God can undo it, and give you 2 fold blessing in the opposite direction with 1 prayer. Just ask and you got it.

It could be this has nothing to do with that lady, and the devil just knows you had skeptical thoughts about her, and then threw some garbage at you to make you think something is going on.

The devil used to do this to me all the time. It's just nonsense. "The life and word of God in me is going to be sucked dry by you devil?" I'd just start laughing about it to be honest.

At prayer, Pastor told everyone to be silent for 30 minutes and meditate on the Lord, read the Word, or journal. 15 minutes had not passed before this lady had to run to the pastor's office to talk to him. I thought silence was for everyone...
What should I do? Sorry this has been so long.

What you do, is realize this lady has issues. She's wrapped up in pride. I know because I speak from experience! Dear me, I'm too prideful. Anyway, that's what's going on with her. But she's also excited. She likely does believe it is God, so excitement with a little lack of humility plus "God is talking to me!" will get you wound up like that so you're disobedient.

The problem is if a person is disobedient at all, it means they have a disobedient spirit associated with them. They're yielding at least partially to the devil.

This is why going around as a "prophet" is dangerous. A Christian can prophesy by God, but if they get a little off on behavior for whatever reason, a false spirit will come to them and try to make them prophesy. So out of one person you might have God and the devil trying to prophesy. The only way it continues to be of God is they are able to submit to God and resist the devil in their walk.

Otherwise lifestyle behavior will tilt their ability to prophesy away from God.

That said, I'd just treat her in 1 Corinthians 13 love, and don't take her prophesy seriously.

All prophesy has to first agree with your spirit in order for you to receive it. Reject all prophesy that you do not already agree with by personal revelation of God from his word and spirit. Never agree with a prophesy of facts. Agree with prophesy according to and in agreement with God's word.

 

[Staj2016]

BE CAREFUL, anytime anyone says they have a prophetic word for you. If you get that check in your spirit you need to heed that. When someone gives you a prophetic word, write it down and have the pastor or other mature/ older believers judge it. Remember prophecy is for Comfort, Edification and Exhortation. It must line up with scripture and will agree with your spirit.

 

[Yahu_]

She came over to me and said "I have been talking to God about you" and she proceeded to tell me about some stuff from my past and so on...I was half listening because the stuff she was talking about has been long dealt with.

Let me just say, I have been called into the office of prophet and this sent up alarms. I have seen this type of counterfeit parading as a prophetess before. Remember one aspect of a Jezebel is to masquerade as a prophetess but I have also know several valid prophetess' so don't think I am just being sexist.

I never have conversations back and forth to Yah. As a matter of fact when a prophetic word does come, I only get the 1st few words until I start to give it. I don't know the message in advance. Often if I did, I would have a hard time even opening my mouth with such a message.

The above situation was to bring you under condemnation by revealing past events as if it was word of knowledge but if it is already dealt with, why would the Holy Spirit even be brought up? She may have spirits that impart knowledge to her, but it doesn't sound like her actions are of the Holy Spirit and you seem to have some abilities with 'discernment of spirits' yourself. That is a major ability required by anyone with a prophetic calling to insure the spirit they are listening to is from Yah. You yourself may have some kind of prophetic calling. Prophets are to be tested by other prophets and you have found her lacking.

Myself, I never go up to people to give them a word. As a matter of fact, it is a rare occurrence for me to be given a prophetic word. When they do come, they are instantly recognized as valid and are extremely powerful.

Every time I had to give a prophetic word, it was in a major conflict to expose error and bring correction. For example the 1st prophetic word I ever gave was in confronting a coven at one of their weekend parties. Granted I have a form of prophet calling that isn't really used in the church environment but in battle with the enemy.

If you want to test your ability to determine anointing on another prophetic word, I will give you one of the words that came through me. Test it for yourself. See if you can sense anointing by your discernment. The following word was given to a pastor's daughter that was spreading gossip to punish people that didn't measure up to her Phariseeism.

"My precious daughter,
See them as I see them.
See them filtered through the blood.
See them for the glory they can achieve.
Weep! Weep for my lost children!
Weep as I weep for them.
I didn't call you to be an accuser of your brethren.
I called you to love one another and draw them to Me by your love."

The girl it came for ended up weeping and repenting in my arms. She left her own father's church to get involved with a spirit filled congregation as a result. She got the baptism of the spirit and confronted her parent's false doctrines. That caused a revival in her home church and the gifts of the spirit manifesting. Then the entire congregation was cast out of their parent fundamentalist denomination.