I have read Eph 3. Maybe you should read the end of Rom 16 that Interplanner refers to in his post. If the mystery is in Is 65 or Hos 2 then you are calling Paul a liar.
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I don't blame you for now ignoring Rom 16:25-27 where Paul clearly states that the mystery is not in the OT. If it is not in the OT how can the NT refer to it as you claimed?
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You're being evasive...or you really didn't read Ephesians 3 so I'll just lay it out:
Ephesians 3:1-7
For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for the sake of you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the stewardship of God’s grace which was given to me for you;
3 that by revelation there was made known to me the mystery, as I wrote before in brief.
4 By referring to this, when you read you can understand my insight into the mystery of Christ,
5 which in other generations was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed to His holy apostles and prophets in the Spirit; 6 to be specific, that the Gentiles are fellow heirs and fellow members of the body, and fellow partakers of the promise in Christ Jesus through the gospel,
7 of which I was made a minister, according to the gift of God’s grace which was given to me according to the working of His power.
So Paul just told you "TO BE SPECIFIC" what the mystery of Christ is. You are simply refusing to accept it.
Romans 16 doesn't make the point. Romans 9 does...where Paul quotes Hosea 2 and Isaiah 10.
You're just not making sense. Paul uses the OT and the NT to make his point. Your rule...is void. Mainly because you're making the mistake of looking at this in our time...when you should actually be looking at this through Paul's time. It's NOT a mystery to us because we have the full revelation of God's word in the scriptures. In Paul's time (as he writes), it's not.
The main thing Paul fights against is the Jews not understanding how Gentiles are included and do not have to heed the Law...so it is indeed a mystery to them and also to Gentiles who are aware that Jews view them as unclean.
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It seems you have a great difficulty with Isaiah 11!!! because the 10 verses above that proves the is when Christ came. Look at Isaiah 11:1, 2:
Then a shoot will spring from the stem of Jesse, And a branch from his roots will bear fruit.
2 The Spirit of the Lord will rest on Him, The spirit of wisdom and understanding, The spirit of counsel and strength, The spirit of knowledge and the fear of the Lord.
So what we have here is the coming of Christ!!! Now...Isaiah 11:10 shows why your interpretation has problems:
10 Then in that day The nations will resort to the root of Jesse, Who will stand as a signal for the peoples; And His resting place will be glorious.
This is why you have a huge problem "The nations" are Gentiles coming to Christ!!!
Now I will direct you to Acts 2 at Pentecost for the rest...as Peter preaches the gospel to Jews from all over the world!
You can't just pull this out of thin air and call it 1948, You have absolutely ZERO support for this conclusion. The ensign is a flag or signal! The ONLY flag to the nations is Christ...NOT ISRAEL. Through the gospel this finds it's roots in the Hebrew "Jehovah Nissi" which is The Lord my banner (or flag). This is what Jesus is to ALL peoples. However most important is...this is the going forth of the gospel!!!
Did you know this is Romans 15:12, where the apostle Paul makes the connection to this pasage?
So you won't mind me cutting out your flag out?
Isa 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
Isa 11:2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him(Jesus Christ), the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
Isa 11:3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
Isa 11:4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
Isa 11:5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
Isa 11:6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Isa 11:7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox.
Isa 11:8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice' den.
Isa 11:9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.
Isa 11:10 And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. (Jesus Christ)
This verse does come after everything before it. I wouldnt use this verse for proof if this verse happened and then Christ came..
Isa 11:11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people, which shall be left, from Assyria, and from Egypt, and from Pathros, and from Cush, and from Elam, and from Shinar, and from Hamath, and from the islands of the sea.
So what is this?
Where did the remnant come from? We need to prove this already happened right?
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One of the meanings of the original Greek word ("e", G2228) translated as "or" in Revelation 13:17 is "either" (1 Corinthians 14:6). The second "or" in Revelation 13:17 (in the original Greek Textus Receptus) should be read as "either": "And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark: either the name of the beast, or the number of his name" (cf. also the NIV). Revelation 14:11 subsequently refers synecdochically to just the first of the two options: "the mark of his name". And Revelation 15:2 refers synecdochically to just the second option: the mark of the number of his name (in the original Greek Textus Receptus of Revelation 15:2, there's no "and" between "over his mark" and "over the number of his name").
The "mark of the beast" (Revelation 13:16-17, Revelation 16:2) will be a literal, physical mark which will be visible to people, so they can easily tell in every situation, even one without electricity, whether or not someone should be permitted to buy or sell (Revelation 13:17). It will be visible also because the original Greek of Revelation 13:16 shows that the mark will be placed only "on" (epi), not inside, people's right hands or foreheads. Also, it will be placed on people probably by scarification. For in Revelation 13:16, one of the definitions of the original Greek word (charagma, G5480) translated as the "mark" is "a scratch or etching" (Strong's Greek Dictionary), and scarification is the scratching or etching (i.e. the cutting) of the skin to leave a permanent mark. The reason people will be given the mark in Revelation 13:16, in the context of what had just been shown previously in Revelation 13:4,8,15, will be to serve as a visible indicator to other people that they are loyal worshippers of Lucifer (the dragon, Satan) (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9) and of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) and his image (Revelation 13:4,8,15), just as some Luciferians today put a mark on themselves by scarification.
The mark will consist of only the Antichrist's name "or" some representation of the gematrial number of his name (666) (Revelation 13:17-18), meaning that the mark will be the Antichrist's name for some people and a representation of the gematrial number of his name for other people. And the mark will be placed only on the right hand (probably on the palm) "or" on the forehead (Revelation 13:16), meaning that it will be placed on the right hand of some people and on the forehead of other people.
Those who refuse to receive the Antichrist's mark won't be allowed to buy or sell anything (Revelation 13:17), and they will be executed by being beheaded if they refuse to worship the Antichrist and his image (Revelation 13:15, Revelation 20:4). Christians must be willing to suffer this fate rather than agree to receive the Antichrist's mark or worship him or his image, for those people who agree to do these things, even if they are Christians, will suffer God's wrath in fire and brimstone forever (Revelation 14:9-13), whereas those Christians who refuse to do these things, even though they will be beheaded, will subsequently be physically resurrected into immortality (along with the rest of the obedient church of all times) at Jesus' 2nd coming (Revelation 20:4-6; 1 Corinthians 15:21-23,52-58). And even before their resurrection, at the moment of their death, their still-conscious souls will be brought into the presence of Jesus in heaven (cf. 2 Corinthians 5:8, Philippians 1:21,23, Revelation 6:9-10, Luke 23:43,46).
In the future, when the world begins to worship the Antichrist as God (Revelation 13:8; 2 Thessalonians 2:4, Daniel 11:36), some people could gladly be willing to have his name placed by scarification on their right palm, just as lovers in the past were sometimes known to have their loved ones' initials placed by scarification on their palm (cf. also Isaiah 49:16, Jeremiah 48:37, Leviticus 19:28, Leviticus 21:5). Other of the Antichrist's worshippers could gladly be willing to have his name placed by scarification on their forehead, thinking (mistakenly) that they are fulfilling the Christian idea of Revelation 22:4, which refers to the future point in time when Jesus will put God's name visibly on the forehead of obedient Christians (Revelation 3:12). The Antichrist's miracle-working False Prophet, who will be the one to cause everyone to be marked with the Antichrist's mark (Revelation 13:16-18), could even convince people that he (the False Prophet) is Jesus returned. (But he won't say that he's Christ, for he and the Antichrist will deny that Jesus is the Christ, and will deny that Christ is in the flesh: 1 John 2:22; 2 John 1:7.)
Instead of having the Antichrist's name engraved on their right hand or forehead, some of his worshippers will have the gematrial number of his name (666) (Revelation 13:17c-18) engraved on their right hand or forehead. But because some people could refuse to have "666" placed on their body, in order to make a mark of 666 acceptable to all people, it could be disguised to look like something else in those cases where people demand something other than "666". For example, it could be disguised in some cases to look like "777", or "111", or "WWW", or "VVV", or "|| || ||", or "FFF". For the 6th letter of the ancient Hebrew alphabet (Vav) represents the number 6, but it looks like a "7", or a "1", and it's transliterated into English as either a "W" or a "V". Also, two thin vertical lines "||" represent the number 6 on many UPC codes. And the letter "F" has a numerical value of 6 in English gematria.
In an awful coincidence (or maybe it's not just a coincidence), "FFF" also stands for an extremely powerful type of nuclear bomb: Fission-Fusion-Fission. Could this be the type of bomb which the 10 kings of the Antichrist's empire will employ to burn up the cities of the world at the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24 (Revelation 17:12,16,17a, Revelation 16:19, Revelation 19:2,11)?
The "WWW" which has been placed on many web addresses, and the "|| || ||" which has been placed across many UPC codes on products (i.e. they have a "||" at the beginning, middle, and end of their UPC codes), are harbingers of when Lucifer will give the Antichrist ownership of everything on the earth (Revelation 13:2b; cf. Luke 4:7), and of the Antichrist placing his "brand" on everything, like a rancher places his "brand" on all his cattle. For both "WWW" and "|| || ||" are disguised representations of the gematrial number of the Antichrist's name: 666 (Revelation 13:17c-18). But Revelation 13:16 isn't fulfilled by some web addresses having "WWW", nor by some products having "|| || ||" on their UPC codes, for Revelation 13:16 refers only to when people will be given the Antichrist's mark, on either their right hand or forehead.
Those assigned to have the mark placed on their forehead (instead of on their right hand) (Revelation 13:16) could be an elite, illumined, cognoscenti class of Gnostic Luciferians who alone will have been given knowledge of the ultimate secrets of the Antichrist's Gnostic Luciferianism. The Antichrist will be both a Luciferian, a worshipper of Lucifer/Satan the dragon (Revelation 13:4, Revelation 12:9), and a Gnostic, someone who denies that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3), and forbids marriage and the eating of meat (1 Timothy 4:1-3). The cream of his cognoscenti could be a faux 144,000, consisting of male virgins (as a counterfeit of Revelation 14:4) who have never eaten meat. If they receive on their forehead the mark of the Antichrist's name (instead of a representation of the number of his name) (Revelation 13:17), this will be as a counterfeit of YHWH's 144,000 in Revelation 14:1. But the Antichrist won't pretend that he's YHWH, just as he won't pretend that he's Christ. Instead, as a Gnostic, he will utterly revile YHWH (Revelation 13:6, Daniel 11:36). And his Gnostic denial that Christ is in the flesh (1 John 4:3) will disqualify him (under his mistaken Gnostic doctrine) from being the Christ.
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Romans 11 pretty much proves the Jews in Israel are coming over to our way of thinking and in fact are still part of Gods covenant with them and in fact were going to reject God.
Rom 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it (Christians), and the rest were blinded (Jewish remnant)
Rom 11:8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear
unto this day. Rom 11:15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy(Israel): and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree(Gentile), wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. (YOU)
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell,(Jews) severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree? (Jews)
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery (EBEDMELECH), lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Sorry ebedmelech.
Checkmate on your theory..
You can deny the Jews only so much man.. God has spoken.
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When Paul says "until the fulness (pleroma) of the Gentiles be come in" (Romans 11:25), he means until a full number of genetic Gentile individuals have become saved, which won't happen until near the end of the future tribulation of Revelation chapters 6 to 18 and Matthew 24, right before Jesus' 2nd coming (Romans 11:26), just as Luke 21:24 shows that "the times of the Gentiles" won't be "fulfilled (pleroo)" until the completion of the treading down of Jerusalem during the future, literal 3.5-year worldwide reign of the Antichrist (the individual-man aspect of the beast) (Revelation 11:2b, Revelation 13:5-18) during the 2nd half of the tribulation.
Immediately after the tribulation, at Jesus' 2nd coming (Matthew 24:29-30), all the still-living unsaved elect genetic Jews will become saved (Romans 11:26-28) by God's grace when they see the returned Jesus in person and believe in him (Zechariah 12:10-14). And so they will all become part of the church at that time, just as when genetic Jews believe in Jesus now they become part of the church, for there are now no believers outside of the church (Ephesians 4:4-6).
And the genetic Jews who will become believers at the 2nd coming will all become part of the church by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit, who is "the spirit of grace and of supplications" in Zechariah 12:10 (Hebrews 10:29c, Romans 8:26), just as genetic Jewish believers today become part of the church by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit. For it's by receiving some measure of the Holy Spirit that both genetic Jewish believers and genetic Gentile believers become part of the church (1 Corinthians 12:13).
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I think we have the technology to implement a mark, but for sake of conversation, lets say the mark is similar to the mark of God, which weve established is the Word of God and the works we do as a result.
Rev 13:17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
Here, the verse separates the Mark from the Name and the number.
Your thoughts?
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Yeah, me and you are pretty much on the same page here..
I agree, but these guys are saying that the Jews have already sealed there fate, but Romans 11 says otherwise, in fact, that God will graft them back in..
Your thoughts?
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edit: will revisit pending reply..
Lets try and get the thread back on track..
I started this thread for those who are unaware of the Prophecy unfolding in our reality at this time..
Ill repost my OP.. so we can get back on track..
Lets take a look at the current state of the world, and see if it correlates to Biblical prophesy..
Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. *(This has never happened before)*
13 killed in Damascus bombing, reports Syrian TV - Salon.com
Syrian government bombs Damascus suburbs where rebels say chemical weapons attack occurred just the day before | New York Post
We can go all day on how Damascus is being destroyed, moving along however..
Isa 19:2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.
Egypt Headed Toward Civil War, Morsi Backers Warn
Is Egypt Heading Towards Civil War?
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Japan Earthquake: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News
Over 189 dead in China earthquake: "We lost everything" - CBS News
Haiti Earthquake: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News
Pakistan Earthquake Appears To Form New Island (PHOTO)
Signs from heavens?
I wont post pics of the famine in this world, its too heartbreaking..
Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hos 4:2 By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.
Hos 4:3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.
Blizzard Catastrophe Kills Tens of Thousands of Cows; Shutdown Leaves Ranchers on Ice | Mother Jones
https://www.google.com/search?q=mas...pCcAqn62gWVwYFw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=752
https://www.google.com/search?q=massive+fish+kill&client=firefox-a&hs=G5v&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=DYygUpCcAqn62gWVwYFw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=752#q=dolphins+beaching+themselves&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch
https://www.google.com/search?q=mas...m+sky&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch
I havent even scratched the surface..
Lets continue..
Every lunar eclipse tetrad that has ever occurred on Jewish holy days, happens during the fulfillment of prophecy.
In 1949-50 we had a blood moon tetrad after the return of Israel in 1948.
In 1967-68 we had a blood moon tetrad after the reclaiming of Israel against all odds.
The next tetrad is 2014-2015, just in time to fulfill the final week of Daniels Prophecy.
The covenant between Israel and Palestine, essentially subduing their Muslim enemies will allow the temple of God to be rebuilt.
The Pope is actively involved to make this happen..
Israel's Netanyahu and Pope Francis exchange gifts, talk policy - latimes.com
This is why things are speeding up in the middle east, as well as the coming collapse of our financial system as we know it, to make room for a world wide financial system around a new world government headed by satan.
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
The last generation started with the return of Israel.
Thats why all of this is happening, just as foretold in Prophecy and Im just getting warmed up..
Lets try and get the thread back on track..
I started this thread for those who are unaware of the Prophecy unfolding in our reality at this time..
Ill repost my OP.. so we can get back on track..
Lets take a look at the current state of the world, and see if it correlates to Biblical prophesy..
Isa 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap. *(This has never happened before)*
13 killed in Damascus bombing, reports Syrian TV - Salon.com
Syrian government bombs Damascus suburbs where rebels say chemical weapons attack occurred just the day before | New York Post
We can go all day on how Damascus is being destroyed, moving along however..
Isa 19:2 And I will set the Egyptians against the Egyptians: and they shall fight every one against his brother, and every one against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom.
Egypt Headed Toward Civil War, Morsi Backers Warn
Is Egypt Heading Towards Civil War?
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Japan Earthquake: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News
Over 189 dead in China earthquake: "We lost everything" - CBS News
Haiti Earthquake: Pictures, Videos, Breaking News
Pakistan Earthquake Appears To Form New Island (PHOTO)
Signs from heavens?
I wont post pics of the famine in this world, its too heartbreaking..
Amo 9:11 In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:
Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hos 4:2 By swearing, and lying, and killing, and stealing, and committing adultery, they break out, and blood toucheth blood.
Hos 4:3 Therefore shall the land mourn, and every one that dwelleth therein shall languish, with the beasts of the field, and with the fowls of heaven; yea, the fishes of the sea also shall be taken away.
Blizzard Catastrophe Kills Tens of Thousands of Cows; Shutdown Leaves Ranchers on Ice | Mother Jones
https://www.google.com/search?q=mas...pCcAqn62gWVwYFw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=752
https://www.google.com/search?q=massive+fish+kill&client=firefox-a&hs=G5v&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=DYygUpCcAqn62gWVwYFw&ved=0CCwQsAQ&biw=1600&bih=752#q=dolphins+beaching+themselves&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch
https://www.google.com/search?q=mas...m+sky&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch
I havent even scratched the surface..
Lets continue..
Every lunar eclipse tetrad that has ever occurred on Jewish holy days, happens during the fulfillment of prophecy.
In 1949-50 we had a blood moon tetrad after the return of Israel in 1948.
In 1967-68 we had a blood moon tetrad after the reclaiming of Israel against all odds.
The next tetrad is 2014-2015, just in time to fulfill the final week of Daniels Prophecy.
The covenant between Israel and Palestine, essentially subduing their Muslim enemies will allow the temple of God to be rebuilt.
The Pope is actively involved to make this happen..
Israel's Netanyahu and Pope Francis exchange gifts, talk policy - latimes.com
This is why things are speeding up in the middle east, as well as the coming collapse of our financial system as we know it, to make room for a world wide financial system around a new world government headed by satan.
Mat 24:33 So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
Mat 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
The last generation started with the return of Israel.
Thats why all of this is happening, just as foretold in Prophecy and Im just getting warmed up..
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We know Saudi Arabia isnt going to come against Israel in the end days, and the prophecy is unfolding now. The Saudi's in an unlikely move, have become allies with Israel.
Ezekiel 38 is falling into place.
Egypt is no longer being supported by the US and has no reason not to come against Israel now.
Libya is now under terrorist control and swears by Israels death, Gaddafi was removed from power.
Persia is Iran, which vows Israels defeat and destruction
Magog is Russia, which is Irans ally
All of this is lining up in our lifetime guys..
Here is why the Saudis arent part of the coming future attack on Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhnVW5DRfw8
Ezekiel 38 is falling into place.
Egypt is no longer being supported by the US and has no reason not to come against Israel now.
Libya is now under terrorist control and swears by Israels death, Gaddafi was removed from power.
Persia is Iran, which vows Israels defeat and destruction
Magog is Russia, which is Irans ally
All of this is lining up in our lifetime guys..
Here is why the Saudis arent part of the coming future attack on Israel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhnVW5DRfw8
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Rev 22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. (Every Christian on earth)
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
Rev 22:9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
Rev 22:10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
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Thank God for those who are sharing the truth of current events, we certainly draw near to the completion of things of this earth.
He more recently revealed much of what you present, in particular what is the photo with the bright streak crossing the sky? Is that a missle somewhere?
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That was one of the meteors that ripped through our atmosphere and continued back through into space..
The fireballs have been reported everywhere lately..
"Signs in the Heavens"
For the first time we have a ton of celestial events happening at the same time..
Somethings going on thats for sure..
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something... almost seems as if the whole country is going to implode while everything around Israel explodes. Knew is wasn't a missle, do you know where it was?
and the great dragon was cast forth--the old serpent, who is called `Devil,' and `the Adversary,' who is leading astray the whole world--he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him. And I heard a great voice saying in the heaven, `Now did come the salvation, and the power, and the reign, of our God, and the authority of His Christ, because cast down was the accuser of our brethren, who is accusing them before our God day and night; and they did overcome him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life--unto death;
(Rev 12:9-11)
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Knew is wasn't a missle, do you know where it was?
and the great dragon was cast forth--the old serpent, who is called `Devil,' and `the Adversary,' who is leading astray the whole world--he was cast forth to the earth, and his messengers were cast forth with him. And I heard a great voice saying in the heaven, `Now did come the salvation, and the power, and the reign, of our God, and the authority of His Christ, because cast down was the accuser of our brethren, who is accusing them before our God day and night; and they did overcome him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life--unto death;
(Rev 12:9-11)
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
Heres your sign lol...
I do hope people take the prophecy more seriously...
[AMAZING] Russian Meteor Explosion (2-15-13) - YouTube
UNBELIAVABLE - Meteor Hits New York, USA 2013 - YouTube
METEOR LIGHT UP THE SKIES OF CANADA SEPTEMBER 27, 2013 - YouTube
Meteor sighted on the USA East Coast United States 22/03/2013 - YouTube
Meteor Over Utah 11-18-2009 - YouTube
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There have been sightings of such all through time, but no int'l news or internet to transmit or communicate those sightings.
In London in the 1890s there was about a half year of blood red sunsets due to the amount of volcanic ash in the sky from Krakatoa. I don't think the size of that has been superceded yet.
The Kahoutek comet visited in the 1100s and there are paintings of comets from the Renaissance era (15th-16th cents.) that were included as background on paintings for churches of the birth of Christ etc.
During the 'little ice age' about 1/3 of Europe perished due to reduced quality of diet and the plague that spread through rats.
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one's there, does that mean there was no sound?
did any of these comets come with propositional communication from God? No, but there have been CMEs (now that we know how to observe them) that flashed far enough to destroy earth, but they burst in the opposite direction. So 2 Pet 3 is true enough; we have the propositional communication from God that matters already.
Lk 21 was intended to be about 1st century Judea and the subjugation of Israel by Rome. And there was a major famine in the late 40s that affected Jerusalem (Acts 11:27, Gal. 2:10, Rom 15:28), an incident which fulfilled both Joel 2's 'seeing visions' and Jesus about those times.
In London in the 1890s there was about a half year of blood red sunsets due to the amount of volcanic ash in the sky from Krakatoa. I don't think the size of that has been superceded yet.
The Kahoutek comet visited in the 1100s and there are paintings of comets from the Renaissance era (15th-16th cents.) that were included as background on paintings for churches of the birth of Christ etc.
During the 'little ice age' about 1/3 of Europe perished due to reduced quality of diet and the plague that spread through rats.
If a tree falls in the forest, and no one's there, does that mean there was no sound?
did any of these comets come with propositional communication from God? No, but there have been CMEs (now that we know how to observe them) that flashed far enough to destroy earth, but they burst in the opposite direction. So 2 Pet 3 is true enough; we have the propositional communication from God that matters already.
Lk 21 was intended to be about 1st century Judea and the subjugation of Israel by Rome. And there was a major famine in the late 40s that affected Jerusalem (Acts 11:27, Gal. 2:10, Rom 15:28), an incident which fulfilled both Joel 2's 'seeing visions' and Jesus about those times.
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In the book of Luke, we are instructed to look for signs in the heavens.
Luk 21:11 And great earthquakes shall be in divers places, and famines, and pestilences; and fearful sights and great signs shall there be from heaven.
All of a sudden they are talking about meteor "storms" are coming and too many people are seeing them everywhere now.
God is using his creation to communicate with his people, everything comes from God.
Act 2:19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
Act 2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
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Who is the "we" in Lk 21? People in 2013? Establish the historic meaning first, then procede.
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