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Flat earth is nonsense, as we can see in this photo that demonstrates the curvature of the Earth:
Toronto is not on the sea, it is on a lake.
Take a giant round plate of pizza and put cameras on top of it. Then put some glowing stars on the ceiling. Then spin your pizza and collect the footage. You will see the stars spinning in one direction. Now, the only way your flat earth works if you cheat and say that your flat earth continues to the underside of the disc (Which most flat earthers say is the foundations or the rock part of the flat disc).
The Flat Earth model of the sun does not fit the reality of what we see in the real world. Antartica has 24 hours of daylight sometimes. This is not possible on a flat Earth. Their sun model has the sun rotating in a circle around the pizza crust (i.e. their outer edge ice wall). They have no explanation of how there are long periods of daylight in their flat earth model. It simply does not work. If one just visualizes this, it simply does not work.
First, there's no actual proof there is a 24-hour sun in the Antarctic.
So, yes, it would work in a flat earth model just fine.
Toronto is not on the sea, it is on a lake.
Flat earth has no issues with star rotations, at all.
There you are.. Looking North... to the ones on the ceiling... Looking South to the ones on the floor..Note: I updated my previous post to you to include a spinning beach ball with cameras on the top and bottom sides of the ball with glowing stars on the ceiling and glowing stars on the floor.
There you are.. Looking North... to the ones on the ceiling... Looking South to the ones on the floor..
There you are.. Looking North... to the ones on the ceiling... Looking South to the ones on the floor..
Good day..God Bless.
On any object... it is the same.Exactly. And what we see corresponds to that spinning beach ball, and not to the "flat earth."
Looking south on a ball.. is looking down
Looking south on a flat disk is still looking the opposite direction as looking north on a disk...
Ummm, no. If that's how you think flat earth works, you don't understand the concept. You are living with a giant lens of an atmosphere overhead. That means perspective is king in these cases because the lensing effects have to be accounted for. When ignored, like in your example, it misrepresents the model completely and results in faulty conclusions.
If you are ever willing to see exactly why your example falls way short, here is an explanation of what actually appears to be going on. Flat earth has no issues with star rotations, at all. And if you are willing, I'll gladly give you kudos for your intellectual honesty, agreement or not.
No. While I did not watch the whole video (because I cannot tolerate watching FE video nonsense), just by quickly glancing at it for a few seconds, the guy in your video is looking out frontwards, and he is not looking upwards ONLY to the sky. We are talking about looking straight UP in different parts of a flat disc. The rotation is not going to change if you are on a flat disc and looking up. Please just take some star glow stickers and place them on the ceiling. Then take a bunch of cameras (pointed UP ONLY at the stars) and put them on a flat disc and then rotate that disc. You will ONLY see stars rotating in one direction no matter where the camera (pointed up) is at on the flat disc. It's pure observation.
But if you were to also put star glow stickers on your floor, and put cameras on the top side and bottom side of a ball, and spin the ball, then collect the footage, you would see that the footage on top spins in one direction, while the footage in the bottom spins in another direction. This is what we observe on our planet. So you are pushing unreality in hiding from the truth.
First, there's no actual proof there is a 24-hour sun in the Antarctic.
You said:Second, even if it were proven so, in a flat earth model under the dome, the phenomenon known as 'coffee cup caustic' would easily provide periods of a 24-hour sun. So, yes, it would work in a flat earth model just fine.
The water-filled atmosphere is a huge lens and needs to be treated as such when considering observations.
because you don't understand the flat earth model concept at all
So you believe the Earth has literal physical pillars? If so, what do they look like?
If you believe in the popular Flat Earth model (with the sun moving like this):
Then this is what it would look like from the ground:
But that is not what we see.
If the sun set on a Flat Earth, it would look like this:
And there would be a period of darkness for the entire world until the sun came back up. But does the entire world experience darkness all at once like this? Is this what we observe? No. The reason why the sun can be seen on another part of the Earth is because it is a sphere.
Well, this is the first time you said something correctly on this topic. By your very own words, you said, I quote:
“I have it wrong.” ~ Shrewd Manager
This is just an ad hominem with no real basis in any truth. You don't know my life or walk with the Lord. You know nothing about me to determine my finances and what I do with them. In fact, the idea of being rich repulses me. If I was rich, I would not have any need to work at a job, and I was just live on vacation the rest of my life. But this is not the case. I need to work at a job so that I can buy food, have a shelter, and clothes. I have put away watching secular movies, and worldly entertainment, and my daily goal in life is to serve and follow Christ.
We can see a ship (Which is Conti Lyon that was approximately 16 miles away) below the curvature of the Earth (in the far distance) while we view another large ship in the foreground or in our closer view.
This proves the earth is a sphere and not a flat disc. If you were to zoom in with high powered telescope, you would not be able to see the bottom half of the ship in the far distance (approximately 16 miles away). This again is just one of the many pieces of evidences that makes flat earth just look dumb.
Here is another image.
Kea.
Mauna Kea, the highest peak in Hawaii (the summit of the Big Island), offers incredible views. With nothing but the ocean around it, and a few other nearby islands, you should be able to see extremely far away. The island of Kauai has the seventh highest point in the Hawaiian islands: the peak known as Kawaikini. If you were to draw a straight line from Mauna Kea (elevation: 13,796 ft.) to Kawaikini (elevation: 5226 ft.) it would span a distance of 303 miles.
However, you cannot see one from the other, which you would absolutely be able to do if the Earth were flat. With a curved Earth of its measured radius, the line-of-sight limit for those two elevations caps out at 233 miles. Only with a curved Earth is one invisible from the other, and this is true for any two mountain peaks with clear line-of-sights from one to the other.
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