Proof that Trump's an Idiot

[pat34lee]

How so? Does having a political career inevitably corrupt people? If so, why wouldn't it corrupt Trump once he becomes President?

It is rare for fame or power not to corrupt. That is why the Founding Fathers should have put limits on how much time you can be in politics, in any office. They just never foresaw the rise of the professional politician who does nothing else their whole life.

 

[Bknight006]

Oh yeh, THAT's a more accurate guide!

It's not more scientific, but it's definitely true in this case. If you look at it, ignoring any bias and considering just the facts and their implications, then you find that he really is a fool.

He considers his time in a military academy the equivalent of fighting on the front lines of a war. He wants to cut EVEN MORE money from America's already-dismal public education (and being a high school student myself, I know how bad it already is and how much worse Trump will make it). He intends to build a wall on our southern border and make Mexico pay for it; as if we could do that without war! He intends to steal $1.5T worth in oil from Iraq, which would destroy our relations and probably lead to war with them too.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Donald_Trump.htm

So, using common sense, AKA wisdom, yes, I can most certainly say that Trump is an idiot.

 

[Belk]

The economy...and the financial management of EVERY department.

The economy is not exactly a government function.

If you run departments as a business how would one go about maximizing profit while minimizing loss? My whole issue with running government as a business is that they perform two very different functions that do not necessarily translate well.

 

[Albion]

It's not more scientific, but it's definitely true in this case. If you look at it, ignoring any bias and considering just the facts and their implications, then you find that he really is a fool.

I'm sorry, but unless you are the head of the World Bank or the National Association of Manufacturers or are Bill Gates posting here under an alias, I consider this kind of assertion to be patently absurd and of no value to the discussion.

You could say you disagree with him or think he's not ready to be president, but these kinds of broadsides we've been reading--offered as though we're supposed to take them seriously?--No.

 

[pakicetus]

It's a balance sheet, and a good deal verses a bad deal, for Trump. We need that right now.

You say you trust Trump to balance the budget. Let's see how plausible that is:

Right now, the deficit is $583 billion. Like I said before, Trump wants to cut taxes, so he must want to balance the budget entirely by cutting spending. He also wants to expand the military and leave Social Security and Medicare alone. Since the military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt make up around 80% of the federal budget, we spend about $726 billion on everything else combined. Subtract veterans' benefits too (which I assume Trump doesn't want to cut since he says he'll "fight for veterans"), and it's $565 billion--which is less than the deficit. That means we couldn't balance the budget even if we spend zero dollars on everything Trump hasn't stated he won't cut, and that's if we don't cut taxes or expand the military like he wants! It's impossible to balance the budget on Trump's terms.

 

[ScottA]

The economy is not exactly a government function.

If you run departments as a business how would one go about maximizing profit while minimizing loss? My whole issue with running government as a business is that they perform two very different functions that do not necessarily translate well.

The government can have an effect on the economy, good or bad, i.e. Freddie/Fanny, etc..

I believe you are referring to the "job" of government, as opposed to the management of resource, etc. The "job" of government isn't concerned with profit...but the management of government departments should be concerned with losses. There is way too much waste at taxpayer's expense. "Good enough for government" ought to be good enough for business...but it's not, it's a cliche and a joke.

 

[ScottA]

Right now, the deficit is $583 billion. Like I said before, Trump wants to cut taxes, so he must want to balance the budget entirely by cutting spending. He also wants to expand the military and leave Social Security and Medicare alone. Since the military, Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt make up around 80% of the federal budget, we spend about $737 billion on everything else combined. Subtract veterans' benefits too (which I assume Trump doesn't want to cut since he says he'll "fight for veterans"), and it's $576 billion--which is less than the deficit. That means we couldn't balance the budget even if we spend zero dollars on everything Trump hasn't stated he won't cut, and that's if we don't cut taxes or expand the military like Trump wants! It's impossible to balance the budget on Trump's terms. In fact, the deficit would have to increase.

Well your take on Trump's terms may not, but I would consider that is not all there is to it. I believe he would look at the cause and effect of taxes verses government spending, and make improvements on the business model, the formula. He plans to tackle one area a week, applying sound business principals, until he has run the gamut of government head to toe.

 

[pakicetus]

Well your take on Trump's terms may not, but I would consider that is not all there is to it.

Lol it's just arithmetic! If you think I made a mistake, do the math yourself and show me how I'm wrong!

I believe he would look at the cause and effect of taxes verses government spending, and make improvements on the business model, the formula. He plans to tackle one area a week, applying sound business principals, until he has run the gamut of government head to toe.

I hope he's willing to do at least one second of research, so his "improvements" aren't based on lies, rumors, and things the voices in his head told him. He doesn't have an amazing track record of distinguishing fact from fiction. For my part, I won't trust the judgment or research skills of anyone who thinks the Chinese invented global warming.

 

[Audacious]

Well your take on Trump's terms may not, but I would consider that is not all there is to it. I believe he would look at the cause and effect of taxes verses government spending, and make improvements on the business model, the formula. He plans to tackle one area a week, applying sound business principals, until he has run the gamut of government head to toe.

Maybe you should put your trust in someone that hasn't had businesses file for bankruptcy 4 times. Trump's business sense is... not that great, honestly.

 

[Belk]

The government can have an effect on the economy, good or bad, i.e. Freddie/Fanny, etc..

Of course it can. However I do not think there is any government agency that studies the overall effect of government policies on the economy. It does sound like a good idea though.

I believe you are referring to the "job" of government, as opposed to the management of resource, etc. The "job" of government isn't concerned with profit...but the management of government departments should be concerned with losses. There is way too much waste at taxpayer's expense. "Good enough for government" ought to be good enough for business...but it's not, it's a cliche and a joke.

How much waste is there? Do we have detailed analysis that actually shows waste or just word of mouth and common knowledge?

 

[SkyWriting]

Could the guy who's dominating Republican polls (and people who lean Republican approve of by two-to-one) be dumber than a sack of bricks? I think so!

Whoever can improve the economy has my vote.

 

[SkyWriting]

Maybe you should put your trust in someone that hasn't had businesses file for bankruptcy 4 times. Trump's business sense is... not that great, honestly.

Most great business successes have.

 

[ScottA]

Lol it's just arithmetic! If you think I made a mistake, do the math yourself and show me how I'm wrong!

You left out 90% of the numbers. The federal budget, is not the countries budget. You just mentioned the hotbutton issues, and left out everyday life and the business of living: by the people, for the people. No wonder your numbers don't add up.

I hope he's willing to do at least one second of research, so his "improvements" aren't based on lies, rumors, and things the voices in his head told him. He doesn't have an amazing track record of distinguishing fact from fiction. For my part, I won't trust the judgment or research skills of anyone who thinks the Chinese invented global warming.

You talk like he's never accomplished a thing. Your emotions have gotten the best of you.

As for China, Trump's insight is quite telling.. I would do more research into cause and effect verses agenda.

 

[lupusFati]

As someone who is autistic, I am kept awake by the very real possibility that Trump could become the next President.

You have no idea how much this scares me. The man considers us an epidemic, which more than certainly aligns him with Autism Speaks, another organization which hates us immensely. He also thinks vaccines cause autism, which means we'll see increases in preventable diseases.

I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, hate Bush or Obama, etc. Please do not support Trump. He is a violation of civil rights waiting to happen.

I can only imagine he hates us, and wants to kill us.

 

[ScottA]

As someone who is autistic, I am kept awake by the very real possibility that Trump could become the next President.

You have no idea how much this scares me. The man considers us an epidemic, which more than certainly aligns him with Autism Speaks, another organization which hates us immensely. He also thinks vaccines cause autism, which means we'll see increases in preventable diseases.

I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, hate Bush or Obama, etc. Please do not support Trump. He is a violation of civil rights waiting to happen.

I can only imagine he hates us, and wants to kill us.

If Trump hates the "cause" of autism, which is what it sounds like...you might rather like him.

 

[pakicetus]

As someone who is autistic, I am kept awake by the very real possibility that Trump could become the next President.

You have no idea how much this scares me. The man considers us an epidemic, which more than certainly aligns him with Autism Speaks, another organization which hates us immensely. He also thinks vaccines cause autism, which means we'll see increases in preventable diseases.

I don't care if you're Republican, Democrat, hate Bush or Obama, etc. Please do not support Trump. He is a violation of civil rights waiting to happen.

I'm autistic too, but I don't know any reason to think Trump hates us. Does he consider autistic people an epidemic or autism itself? There's a huge difference. If he said "vaccines cause alzheimer's, therefore no more vaccines" would that be a sign that he hates alzheimer's victims?

That said, his paranoia about vaccines is ridiculous and dangerous.

 

[pakicetus]

If Trump hates the "cause" of autism, which is what it sounds like...you might rather like him.

Vaccines are not the cause of autism though.

 

[lupusFati]

Vaccines do not cause autism, and if Trump hates autism, he hates me.

Because autism isn't something I have. It's something that is basically integrated into every single aspect of my identity.

And it's that ignorance that scares me, the thinking that "hey if someone hates the cause of autism surely you'd like them?". As far as I can tell no one knows what causes autism, anyway. And anyone who would use the word 'epidemic' for a neurological condition at the very least views autism as a 'disease' to be 'cured'. But it's not a disease, and it doesn't have or need a 'cure'. There's nothing to cure. It's easier to dehumanize people if they're 'diseased' instead of 'that's how they are' though. You starting to see why I'm scared of Trump? He could sign my rights away and I don't want that.

We're born autistic. And personally, I don't want to be 'cured'. I love who I am.

 

[pakicetus]

One thing I like about Trump: Ben Carson supports a 10% tax for everyone, because the Bible asks for tithes of 10% and progressive taxation is "socialism." When they asked Donald Trump what he thought of that, he said: "One thing about the flat tax that I don't like is if you make $200 million a year, and you pay 10%, you're paying very little relative to someone who's making $50,000 a year. One thing I'll say to Ben is that we've had a graduated tax system for many years, so it's not a socialistic thing! What I'd like to do is a major reduction in taxes for the middle class. The hedge fund guys won't like me as much as they like me right now; they'll pay more. I know people who are making a tremendous amount of money and paying virtually no tax, and I think it's unfair."

 

[lupusFati]

Doesn't mean he's right for the presidency. It's about more than just money.