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Such indignation, such avaricious appeal to good and bad form!
If someone offers me something, and I refuse it, would you say that I was interested in that which I refused?
Jesus also resurrected Lazarus from the deadJesus is the truth. If you truely desire the truth, Jesus is the one that guides us into it. He resurrected from the dead! You have to admit that is awesome.
Jesus is the truth. If you truely desire the truth, Jesus is the one that guides us into it. He resurrected from the dead! You have to admit that is awesome.
Ever hear of the term "blind faith"?I would if any of that could be proven.
Ever hear of the term "blind faith"?I would if any of that could be proven.
Ever hear of the term "blind faith"?
I don't hold much to "blind faith" either. More often than not the way faith is practiced today, especially blind faith, is that it seems to be directed much more towards our beliefs that we have about God and not towards God Himself. It's the inner spiritual eyes that see God. When we see God in that way, we do have something in sight which we can direct our faith towards. And that's not being blind at all.Ever hear of the term "blind faith"?
Correct, but simply casting aspersions on what someone has said for no good reason or claiming that you know better than they do what their intentions and ideas are is not a particularly good means of discussing these things in good faith. It does imply that you're not being taken seriously, for one thing.
Are you saying that I'm casting aspersions or the gentleman we have been discussing is casting aspersions? If you are talking about the gentleman, if he is casting aspersions on our personal feelings then he is not being fair. But I know how you feel. To state something and be dismissed or feeling like I'm not taken seriously or criticized for stating something that is of my opinion. Or to have my intentions questioned. Feelings and intentions are all subjective and can not be proved neverthless they are very real to a person and when criticized is very hurtful.
When person P1 has not demonstrated to person P2 that article X has property Y (according to P), then no, one could not draw the conclusion that they are uninterested in Y.
I have, and it's not for me.
Gideon got his fleece, Thomas got to touch.
Nothing wrong with expecting the same if that's how one is inclined. There is certainly precedent for it.
And you received your feelings of power and love.
How is it that you remained not steadfast in that power and love?
I'm not understanding why Love (which is always subjective) is not something to stay steadfast on. We are a creature, more than any other creature, made to respond to Love. As such, it seems to me like Love, even though it IS subjective, is the perfect way for Human Beings to be and to approach all aspects of Life.I told you, I reevaluated them.
I'm looking for something surer, something not subject to subjective feelings.
Nothing wrong with that, as evidenced by the Bible.
I'm not understanding why Love (which is always subjective) is not something to stay steadfast on. We are a creature, more than any other creature, made to respond to Love. As such, it seems to me like Love, even though it IS subjective, is the perfect way for Human Beings to be and to approach all aspects of Life.
I say, than don't put much effort into "knowing" something exists or not. At the same time, I know that you know that Life exist, and because of that "knowing" find a way to see all of life as a blessing, even the bad stuff that comes around...and from a heart centered place be very, very thankful. You don't need any beliefs in God for that. Yet, it still puts you in the same place spiritually as any "believer" in God.Now I like to generally know I'm loving something that exists first.
I say, than don't put much effort into "knowing" something exists or not. At the same time, I know that you know that Life exist, and because of that "knowing" find a way to see all of life as a blessing, even the bad stuff that comes around...and from a heart centered place be very, very thankful. You don't need any beliefs in God for that. Yet, it still puts you in the same place spiritually as any "believer" in God.
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I TOTALLY agree with you. The issues you bring up hit some of the main reasons why I left that faith and went elsewhere. The Heart of Jesus Christ is very simple...Love, Compassion and Service. That simple message gets lost in all of the other tons of stuff that to my eyes has very little to do with what it's founder was saying.And if Christianity was simply about that kind of experience instead of threatening people and tacking a bunch of theological claptrap onto a perfectly pleasant experience, I'd have far less issues with it.
And they can also respond with hate and vengeanceI'm not understanding why Love (which is always subjective) is not something to stay steadfast on. We are a creature, more than any other creature, made to respond to Love.
As such, it seems to me like Love, even though it IS subjective, is the perfect way for Human Beings to be and to approach all aspects of Life.
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I TOTALLY agree with you. The issues you bring up hit some of the main reasons why I left that faith and went elsewhere. The Heart of Jesus Christ is very simple...Love, Compassion and Service. That simple message gets lost in all of the other tons of stuff that to my eyes has very little to do with what it's founder was saying.
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All Hate and Vengeance are is miss-directed Love. There would be a lot less Hate and Vengeance in this world if the rest of us had a lot more Love and Compassion and Service to those in need. That "I" feel is the main message that Jesus Christ was trying to get across to us.And they can also respond with hate and vengeance
Matthew 10:22 "And you will be hated by all for My name's sake.
But he who endures to the end will be saved.
John 15:24 "If I had not done among them the works which no one else did, they would have no sin;
but now they have seen and also hated both Me and My Father.
...and the simple message of Jesus Christ gets lost in the process. I think your on the right track in your thinking process. You may know Christ better than a lot of Christians do. I honestly mean that.But Christianity's problem is how specific it is - it isn't enough to simply live a good life, or try and mimic Jesus - you have to follow their rules exactly, or die.
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