Proof that Creationist belive in Evolution.

[TheKingOfImmortality]

It is said by conservative Christians that we came from two humans and just two humans, Adam and Eve, and that it is inpossibal for humans and all living things to change over time. So how is it possibal that we have different skin,eye and hair color? If all of the human race came from the same two humans and evolution is some kind of lie we would all be one skin color. Yet we have White, Black, Asian, Indi, Hispanic, Native American, Arab,ect. If we all came from the same two people with out evolution we all be White or all Black or all Asian. It is only poissibal with Evolution. So the Creationist must belive in some form of evolution for this to happen. Unless they belive a White coupe can have a Asian kid or black couple can some how have a Hispanic kid. If that was ture how come same race couples in this day and age cant have children of a different race?

 

[consol]

It is said by conservative Christians that we came from two humans and just two humans, Adam and Eve, and that it is inpossibal for humans and all living things to change over time. So how is it possibal that we have different skin,eye and hair color? If all of the human race came from the same two humans and evolution is some kind of lie we would all be one skin color. Yet we have White, Black, Asian, Indi, Hispanic, Native American, Arab,ect. If we all came from the same two people with out evolution we all be White or all Black or all Asian. It is only poissibal with Evolution. So the Creationist must belive in some form of evolution for this to happen. Unless they belive a White coupe can have a Asian kid or black couple can some how have a Hispanic kid. If that was ture how come same race couples in this day and age cant have children of a different race?

You are trying to use logic on a religious forum, please understand, this is not the place to use logic, logic only serves to confuse.

And please be assured that this is not a criticism of you in any way, it is just the way things are around here.
you can write any kind of rubbish you like and it will be accepted, but when you stoop to using logic,
I am afraid it just might get reported.

 

[Logic_Fault]

It is said by conservative Christians that we came from two humans and just two humans, Adam and Eve, and that it is inpossibal for humans and all living things to change over time. So how is it possibal that we have different skin,eye and hair color? If all of the human race came from the same two humans and evolution is some kind of lie we would all be one skin color. Yet we have White, Black, Asian, Indi, Hispanic, Native American, Arab,ect. If we all came from the same two people with out evolution we all be White or all Black or all Asian. It is only poissibal with Evolution. So the Creationist must belive in some form of evolution for this to happen. Unless they belive a White coupe can have a Asian kid or black couple can some how have a Hispanic kid. If that was ture how come same race couples in this day and age cant have children of a different race?

I think, if you get an answer at all, that they'll say something about Adam & Eve's DNA containing all the "information" for the variety we see in humans today and that their DNA was "perfect." At least that would be my guess. That's the typical response when asked about the incest problem you develop when you only have two people to populate a planet.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

It is said by conservative Christians that we came from two humans and just two humans, Adam and Eve, and that it is inpossibal for humans and all living things to change over time. So how is it possibal that we have different skin,eye and hair color? If all of the human race came from the same two humans and evolution is some kind of lie we would all be one skin color. Yet we have White, Black, Asian, Indi, Hispanic, Native American, Arab,ect. If we all came from the same two people with out evolution we all be White or all Black or all Asian. It is only poissibal with Evolution. So the Creationist must belive in some form of evolution for this to happen. Unless they belive a White coupe can have a Asian kid or black couple can some how have a Hispanic kid. If that was ture how come same race couples in this day and age cant have children of a different race?

The Creation/Evolution divide is misleading in name: it is more to do with the "From whom are we descended?" question. The former believe we aren't descended from Apes, whilst the latter believe we are. The other difference, of course, is that the latter's beliefs are evidenced

 

[happydance]

From a literal interpretation, I would imagine God created other humans besides Adam and Eve. These 'others', though not clearly mentioned in Genesis, would likely have the traits of different races and characteristics. Though after the 'Flood', I would guess, the occupants of the ark would have to have the genetic info to recreate to races.

Since, I am not a self proclaimed Christian (maybe agnostic) this is sheerly speculation.

Just thought this would be a good time for me to finally contribute something to C+E.

 

[happydance]

Please shoot me down if I am wrong, but from a scientific standpoint I imagine (the human defined) separation of races is due to environmental adaptation and localized gene pools. Over hundreds or thousands of years, as humans spread out around the world, individual tribes tended to differ in physical appearance.

It is interesting to see that children of two different 'races' often appear to be of a third race. Notably, white/black children frequently have characteristics of people of Middle East, Spanish, and Indian origin.

 

[AV1611VET]

So much for proof ---

 

[gamespotter10]

creationists dont just believe in evolution, they believe in SUPER EVOLUTION. most estimates by young earth creationists put the amount of animals on the ark to be 12,000. right now, there are over 1.5 million different species. all the dogs came from 2 canids according to them.

If this kind of evolution took place in only 4000 years, then we should see speciation happening every 1.6 days.

 

[AV1611VET]

If this kind of evolution took place in only 4000 years, then we should see speciation happening every 1.6 days.

Either that, or God set boundaries that nature cannot cross.

[bible]Psalm 74:17[/bible]

 

[notto]

Either that, or God set boundaries that nature cannot cross.

So much for proof ---

 

[gamespotter10]

Either that, or God set boundaries that nature cannot cross.

[bible]Psalm 74:17[/bible]

proof?

 

[AV1611VET]

proof?

[bible]Psalm 74:17[/bible]

 

[gamespotter10]

[bible]Psalm 74:17[/bible]

3 problems
1: Bible isn't science and simply cannot be presented as evidence
2: that particular verse says nothing about a barrier to genetic and biological change
3: you took 1 verse out of context

 

[AV1611VET]

3 problems
1: Bible isn't science and simply cannot be presented as evidence

Wrong --- qv the Scope's Monkey Trial of 1925.

2: that particular verse says nothing about a barrier to genetic and biological change

Why would it? It's talking about all kinds of borders --- written so that a child (as well as an adult) can understand it.

3: you took 1 verse out of context

Then try Psalm 104 --- specifically verse 5:

[bible]Psalm 104:5[/bible]

 

[gamespotter10]

Wrong --- qv the Scope's Monkey Trial of 1925.



Why would it? It's talking about all kinds of borders --- written so that a child (as well as an adult) can understand it.



Then try Psalm 104 --- specifically verse 5:

[bible]Psalm 104:5[/bible]

the scopes trial was over 75 years ago. Evolution was still in its infancy. now its illegal to teach creation in public schools

2, it still says nothing about biological change

3. pslam 104:5 was also taken out of context.

4. the bible still cannot be used as evidence because it is not testable, nor is it falsifiable, nor is it empirical(that falls under the testable objection)

 

[corvus_corax]

You are trying to use logic on a religious forum, please understand, this is not the place to use logic, logic only serves to confuse.

CORRECTION- the C&E forum is a Scientific Discussion Forum.

The fact that the Creationists refuse to discuss actual science does not change the fact that this (i.e. the C&E forum) is not a religious forum

 

[Split Rock]

Wrong --- qv the Scope's Monkey Trial of 1925.



Why would it? It's talking about all kinds of borders --- written so that a child (as well as an adult) can understand it.



Then try Psalm 104 --- specifically verse 5:

[bible]Psalm 104:5[/bible]

Was that last quote from scripture supposed to be a joke? It is talking about Earth, not species.

 

[Merlin]

It is said by conservative Christians that we came from two humans and just two humans, Adam and Eve, and that it is inpossibal for humans and all living things to change over time. So how is it possibal that we have different skin,eye and hair color? If all of the human race came from the same two humans and evolution is some kind of lie we would all be one skin color. Yet we have White, Black, Asian, Indi, Hispanic, Native American, Arab,ect. If we all came from the same two people with out evolution we all be White or all Black or all Asian. It is only poissibal with Evolution. So the Creationist must belive in some form of evolution for this to happen. Unless they belive a White coupe can have a Asian kid or black couple can some how have a Hispanic kid. If that was ture how come same race couples in this day and age cant have children of a different race?

Adaptation is not the same as evolving from an ape.

 

[gamespotter10]

Adaptation is not the same as evolving from an ape.

adaptation IS evolution

 

[Merlin]

adaptation IS evolution

This is why Christian creationists and evolutioists disagree. semantics