I like fact checkers. I just prefer ones which don't have an agenda.
IOW, the ones that you agree with your position.
Well ... alright, I chose not to post this earlier ... for fear of de-railing the thread. Not sure why I even gave that a thought.
Why do folks on this site continue to use Wikipedia as the end all source? it is fallible from the start in that it is nothing more than user content. Anyone with an agenda from any side can skew it. Sure, it is a place to go to start a search on a topic, but to present it as the truth? Do some more research. Please. For your own credibility and the sake of presenting actual facts.Well ... alright, I chose not to post this earlier ... for fear of de-railing the thread. Not sure why I even gave that a thought.
The facts about Politifact speak for themselves of its biases ... PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaPolitiFact's Lie of the Year for 2011 was a statement by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) that a 2011 budget proposal by Congressman Paul Ryan, entitled The Path to Prosperity and voted for overwhelmingly by Republicans in the House and Senate, meant that "Republicans voted to end Medicare." PolitiFact argued that, though the Republican plan would make significant changes to Medicare, it would not end it. This choice caused a great deal of controversy. PolitiFact had originally labeled this statement a "pants on fire" lie in April 2011; this assertion was criticized at the time by left-wing blogs including the Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo and Firedoglake. After it was named the Lie of the Year, the choice was criticized by commentators including Paul Krugman, who wrote that the DCCC statement was true and was chosen only because PolitiFact, having criticized conservatives in the two previous years, had "bent over backwards to appear 'balanced'"; Steve Benen, who called the decision "credibility-killing"; Jonathan Chait, who called PolitiFact a "shoddy, not-very-smart group"; and David Weigel. The choice was also criticized by conservative commentators, such as Taranto and Ramesh Ponnuru, who called the DCCC statement incorrect but a matter of opinion, not a lie. Three days after publishing their 2011 Lie of the Year choice, PolitiFact acknowledged that reader responses to the selection were almost entirely negative, saying, "Of roughly 1,500 e-mails we received, nearly all criticized our choice."Even with their "lie of the year", Politifact can't get enough straight for it to be unassailable by either side. Just weird ...
Best answer I've got is that Politifact doesn't really understand the difference between FACT and opinion.
Well ... alright, I chose not to post this earlier ... for fear of de-railing the thread. Not sure why I even gave that a thought.
The facts about Politifact speak for themselves of its biases ... PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PolitiFact's Lie of the Year for 2011 was a statement by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) that a 2011 budget proposal by Congressman Paul Ryan, entitled The Path to Prosperity and voted for overwhelmingly by Republicans in the House and Senate, meant that "Republicans voted to end Medicare." PolitiFact argued that, though the Republican plan would make significant changes to Medicare, it would not end it. This choice caused a great deal of controversy. PolitiFact had originally labeled this statement a "pants on fire" lie in April 2011; this assertion was criticized at the time by left-wing blogs including the Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo and Firedoglake. After it was named the Lie of the Year, the choice was criticized by commentators including Paul Krugman, who wrote that the DCCC statement was true and was chosen only because PolitiFact, having criticized conservatives in the two previous years, had "bent over backwards to appear 'balanced'"; Steve Benen, who called the decision "credibility-killing"; Jonathan Chait, who called PolitiFact a "shoddy, not-very-smart group"; and David Weigel. The choice was also criticized by conservative commentators, such as Taranto and Ramesh Ponnuru, who called the DCCC statement incorrect but a matter of opinion, not a lie. Three days after publishing their 2011 Lie of the Year choice, PolitiFact acknowledged that reader responses to the selection were almost entirely negative, saying, "Of roughly 1,500 e-mails we received, nearly all criticized our choice."Even with their "lie of the year", Politifact can't get enough straight for it to be unassailable by either side. Just weird ...
Best answer I've got is that Politifact doesn't really understand the difference between FACT and opinion.
Hey, as long as the wiki article isn't in dispute, use it...right?Well ... alright, I chose not to post this earlier ... for fear of de-railing the thread. Not sure why I even gave that a thought.
The facts about Politifact speak for themselves of its biases ... PolitiFact.com - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
PolitiFact's Lie of the Year for 2011 was a statement by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee (DCCC) that a 2011 budget proposal by Congressman Paul Ryan, entitled The Path to Prosperity and voted for overwhelmingly by Republicans in the House and Senate, meant that "Republicans voted to end Medicare." PolitiFact argued that, though the Republican plan would make significant changes to Medicare, it would not end it. This choice caused a great deal of controversy. PolitiFact had originally labeled this statement a "pants on fire" lie in April 2011; this assertion was criticized at the time by left-wing blogs including the Daily Kos, Talking Points Memo and Firedoglake. After it was named the Lie of the Year, the choice was criticized by commentators including Paul Krugman, who wrote that the DCCC statement was true and was chosen only because PolitiFact, having criticized conservatives in the two previous years, had "bent over backwards to appear 'balanced'"; Steve Benen, who called the decision "credibility-killing"; Jonathan Chait, who called PolitiFact a "shoddy, not-very-smart group"; and David Weigel. The choice was also criticized by conservative commentators, such as Taranto and Ramesh Ponnuru, who called the DCCC statement incorrect but a matter of opinion, not a lie. Three days after publishing their 2011 Lie of the Year choice, PolitiFact acknowledged that reader responses to the selection were almost entirely negative, saying, "Of roughly 1,500 e-mails we received, nearly all criticized our choice."Even with their "lie of the year", Politifact can't get enough straight for it to be unassailable by either side. Just weird ...
Best answer I've got is that Politifact doesn't really understand the difference between FACT and opinion.
It does hurt. You're right. This is why I make a mighty effort to not allow myself to get dragged down into the bickering.
That too. I'm still on the 'net daily, but I have been blissfully without cable for more than six months.
