Problems with Heliocentrism

[AV1611VET]

You haven't heard the worst of it. There are flat earthers on this forum as well. The first time I encountered one, I just knew he had to be a poe, but, to my amazement, he wasn't.

Welcome to the world of faith.

Many people downplay it, deny its efficacy, or define it as believe something you know isn't true; but the fact of the matter is, faith is a powerful motivator and way of life.

 

[lesliedellow]

Welcome to the world of faith.

Many people downplay it, deny its efficacy, or define it as believe something you know isn't true; but the fact of the matter is, faith is a powerful motivator and way of life.

Since when has faith involved having your brain surgically removed?

 

[AV1611VET]

Since when has faith involved having your brain surgically removed?

Since the days of the Inquisition?

 

[Jimmy D]

Factually incorrect.

Your graphic claims that there are no direct flights from "Cape town to Sydney". There are however direct flights from Sydney to Johannesburg. A 6,871 mile flight taking 14 hours. Half the distance shown on your 'graphic'.

Have you been duped? Are blindly accepting anything that concurs with what you believe or are you simply lying?

 

[JD16]

Factually incorrect.

Your graphic claims that there are no direct flights from "Cape town to Sydney". There are however direct flights from Sydney to Johannesburg. A 6,871 mile flight taking 14 hours. Half the distance shown on your 'graphic'.

Have you been duped? Are blindly accepting anything that concurs with what you believe or are you simply lying?

I suspect its more a case of confirmation bias, something that all of us are susceptible to, we tend to filter out data we don't agree with, and accept data that support our position without sufficient scrutiny.....

 

[Jimmy D]

I suspect it more a case of confirmation bias, something that all of us are susceptible to, we tend to filter out data we don't agree with, and accept data that support our position without sufficient scrutiny.....

That would be kinder, but given how the OP denigrates and insults the efforts of humankind over the millenia, meh.

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Factually incorrect.

Your graphic claims that there are no direct flights from "Cape town to Sydney". There are however direct flights from Sydney to Johannesburg. A 6,871 mile flight taking 14 hours. Half the distance shown on your 'graphic'.

Have you been duped? Are blindly accepting anything that concurs with what you believe or are you simply lying?

 

[Jimmy D]

Lazy post. It's probably for the best if you don't have to think for yourself though, if you are trying to maintain such a worldview (no pun intended).

 

[I'm_Sorry]

Lazy post. It's probably for the best if you don't have to think for yourself though, if you are trying to maintain such a worldview (no pun intended).

It's not, track the planes.

Use real-time technology. In this area of research for FE there have been numerous reports of glitches reporting high air speeds above 1000Mph

If the planes have been geared for these flights to Handel high air speeds then it adds further evidence.

This is where I'm at re Flight paths,

The jet streams created by Antarctic, as a circular edge, not a continent on a globe.

 

[lesliedellow]

Planes can and do adjust their altitude, either to take advantage of a jet stream, or to avoid it.

 

[lesliedellow]

It's not, track the planes.

Use real-time technology. In this area of research for FE there have been numerous reports of glitches reporting high air speeds above 1000Mph

A 747 cruises at 570mph. Jet streams have a velocity of between 100 and 200 mph. I know flat earthers do their arithmetic differently from the rest of us, but try your best.

 

[Joshua_5]

One other thing.


I grew up with computers, they've been my life since MS DOS and I've dedicated my professional career to Information Technology.

I studied Information Technology and Computer Science and I'm an avid PC gamer and have played computer games from the 1980s all the way up to today.

I have a massive collection of games spanning all the years.

It would be wise for anyone who believes NASA imagery of earth to first study the history of silicon computer processing technology.

The progress of silicon processing units.

The progress of "code" from operating systems to software.

The progress of digital computer graphical imagery.

The history of 2D-3D graphical rendering.

The progression of screen resolutions and the advancement of it's technology from analogue cathode to digital LCD and digitally beyond.

The progression of graphical processing chips. Intel, NVIDIA and AMD.

The progression of graphical processing chips achieving real time rendering from 10 Frames Per Second all the way up to 144 Frames Per Second, and the advancement of 2D-3D images for the human eye.

The progression of Microsofts DirectX API and Open GL.

The progress of two independent 2D digital screens to produce Virtual Reality


UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE ABOVE I'M AFRAID IT'S YOU WHO WILL BELIEVE ANYTHING SHOWN TO BY NASA ON A SCREEN

I know NASA are a bunch of wizards and liars, but haven't studied the above. Have you a link or more information?

 

[Jimmy D]

I know NASA are a bunch of wizards and liars, but haven't studied the above. Have you a link or more information?

I think he's suggesting the images of the Earth we see are enhanced by CGI, photoshop etc. I think it would be more surprising if it wasn't.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Still waiting for a sun in a lab

LOL!!!!

Sure... let's go ahead and create a star in a lab. Uhu.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I started watching but gave up when it was decided that since LATAM 800 cannot be tracked the whole way across the Pacific on flightadar24 there must be some sort of conspiracy. Never mind the technical limitations of how the flight is tracked, let's just don the tin foil hat and make up some obtuse explanation about flat earth and prohibited zones.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

You must realise that a hydrogen bomb is not quite the same as the sun, though, right? To wake up with the sun's rays coming through your bedroom window - pleasant. Radiation from a hydrogen bomb - not so much.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I think he's suggesting the images of the Earth we see are enhanced by CGI, photoshop etc. I think it would be more surprising if it wasn't.

How did they do that in 1972?

 

[lesliedellow]

I think he's suggesting the images of the Earth we see are enhanced by CGI, photoshop etc. I think it would be more surprising if it wasn't.

I give my photos the same treatment. Although even a super computer probably couldn't do in 1969 what a PC with photoshop can do today.

 

[AV1611VET]

How did they do that in 1972?

Back in our days it was called trick photography.

 

[TagliatelliMonster]

Newtonian mechanics is only a model. Nobody has even proven gravity acts the way Newtonian mechanics assumes it acts. The heliocentric model is only one model that purports to describe the local system. Geocentrism also purports to describe the local system in terms of a universal rotation of the universe with the earth as the only absolute fixed frame.

The difference is that the heliocentric model actually works.

The victory of heliocentrism is really only a victory in the minds of those who must hold to Newtonian gravity and then drop the same notion in special and general relativity.

Progress is so evil, right?

There is no physical proof that the earth moves. If you think otherwise, then you are welcome to provide that evidence.

Seasons.