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It wouldn’t cost God anything he did not decide to pay. Who can make enforceable demands of God?What does it cost to cancel a debt?
If a man has infinite money and is owed money by another it costs him nothing to cancel the debt and earns him only gratitude.Doesn’t it cost the amount of the debt? Plus, perhaps, interest? The owner eats the cost if the debt is cancelled.
Blame me for those, since I did not jump in and provide the good that can come out of them.But the tragedies where no good happens are simply calamity.
Stating that calamity is to cause a down stream ‘good’ is no good to the person who is singled out by God to make a point to somebody else: that’s evil.
I’ve no idea what you are trying to say.The "debt" can easily be unconditionally forgiven, but to get the benefit out of the debt being created in the first place the debtor must willingly accept the forgiveness of the debt as pure undeserved charity.
It wouldn’t cost God anything he did not decide to pay. Who can make enforceable demands of God?
But if he just forgave the debt he would not have needed to create a son and have him crucified.I think the answer is seen in Christ and him crucified. That is the cost that God himself paid to forgive sinners.
You might want to read Matt. 18:21-35 for that one. It does not help and might even hurt the person that is forgiven an unbelievable huge debt with humbly accepting that forgiveness as pure undeserved charity.If a man has infinite money and is owed money by another it costs him nothing to cancel the debt and earns him only gratitude.
I’m always surprised that God did not go the route of positive reinforcement instead of punishment. After all human psychologist have shown in studies that positive reinforcement is more efficacious in encouraging good behaviour.
But if he just forgave the debt he would not have needed to create a son and have him crucified.
Think about this:When we are talking about cancelling debt we are speaking analogically. But it’s still insightful. If you rob me of $1000 then I can either take you to small claims court or forgive you. What does it cost me to forgive you?
No one robbed God of anything. God knew Eve would eat the fruit from the Tree of knowledge when he put the tree where she could get at it.When we are talking about cancelling debt we are speaking analogically. But it’s still insightful. If you rob me of $1000 then I can either take you to small claims court or forgive you. What does it cost me to forgive you?
That was Gods choice. God made up the price and then paid it. He did not have to do that. He could have just decided to forgive without demanding any payment. What would that have cost him, nothing. Again, that is what he expects us to do for others. He is unwilling to do this himself.I think the answer is seen in Christ and him crucified. That is the cost that God himself paid to forgive sinners.
Sin has purpose and the debt it creates has benefit, since both are needed to fulfill man's earthly objective. We not only need forgiveness, but to know God is our parent, so we need to be lovingly disciplined.I’ve no idea what you are trying to say.
That was Gods choice. God made up the price and then paid it. He did not have to do that. He could have just decided to forgive without demanding any payment. What would that have cost him, nothing. Again, that is what he expects us to do for others. He is unwilling to do this himself.
Matt. 18:21-35
That clearly shows how people should forgive the debt of others exactly like the King did (clearly analogous to God as stated by Jesus).You might want to read Matt. 18:21-35 for that one. It does not help and might even hurt the person that is forgiven an unbelievable huge debt with humbly accepting that forgiveness as pure undeserved charity.
Also, it cost God a lot to have a system that provides a way for humans to become like Himself with Godly type Love.
I don’t understand.Blame me for those, since I did not jump in and provide the good that can come out of them.
Hopefully, I will respond better the next time and not continue in my selfish ways.
My point still stands.The Son is eternal, begotten not made. He was never created but is the creator.
I don’t think so. Forgiveness is never free. It costs the person doing the forgiving.My point still stands.
Not for the individual. It’s only function is to motivate people to worship God.Sin has purpose and the debt it creates has benefit,
It can’t cost God unless he allows it to cost him. How can he be held to cost by his own creation?I don’t think so. Forgiveness is never free. It costs the person doing the forgiving.
Adding ‘lovingly’ in front of words does not make it so.Sin has purpose and the debt it creates has benefit, since both are needed to fulfill man's earthly objective. We not only need forgiveness, but to know God is our parent, so we need to be lovingly disciplined.
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