Pro-Life Protesting Behavior

[Texas Lynn]

If the child can be safely birthed then there is NO reason for the abortion other then the love of aborting a child. Because clearly the person hates birthing the child so much that they would rather kill it even when they know full well the child could live and be birthed easily.

In fact it would be medically safer to birth the child as abortions run the risk of infection, uncontroled bleeding, and other serious medical side effect.

There's no need for laypeople to determine such a thing when doctors are quite competent to do so.

You should listen to some of the recorded 911 calls from abortion clinics where a patient had to be rushed to the hospital due to complication resulting from a legal "safe" abortion.

Yes, and you should watch the Jerry Springer Show to get an accurate portrayal of trailer park life.

 

[Monica02]

You know, I got to thinking about my earlier post reagarding the slim chance that someone would go to the abortion clinic for anything other than an abortion and I can recall one instance where one young lady we spoke to was there for another purpose (or so she thought).

She was crying, almost uncontrollably, when she told us that the doctor at the other clinic (this abortionist owns two clinics) told her that her baby did not have a heartbeat and that she should come to this facility and have a D&C. She told this to the lady (fellow pro-lifer) that took her to a real hospital for treatment. When I was talking to her she just said that the doctor sent her there for "tests". She thought God was punishing her for an earlier abortion.

We told her that if her baby was indeed dead that she should be at a better, more compassionate place for treatment and not to even go in that dismal, diabolical building. Another pro-lifer took her to a local ER where she got an ultrasound.


Well, my goodness, guess what? Her baby was just fine. This lady was beyond thrilled, beyond happy and filled with joy at the news that her baby was not dead.

So I suppose it could be accuratly stated that , since she did not know she was showing up for an abortion, she was at the clinic for different treatment.

 

[kevin36]

Educate yourself and you will be less incredulous when confronted with reality.

Show me some reality, and I won't be too surprised by it at all...

 

[Steezie]

You know, I got to thinking about my earlier post reagarding the slim chance that someone would go to the abortion clinic for anything other than an abortion and I can recall one instance where one young lady we spoke to was there for another purpose (or so she thought).

She was crying, almost uncontrollably, when she told us that the doctor at the other clinic (this abortionist owns two clinics) told her that her baby did not have a heartbeat and that she should come to this facility and have a D&C. She told this to the lady (fellow pro-lifer) that took her to a real hospital for treatment. When I was talking to her she just said that the doctor sent her there for "tests". She thought God was punishing her for an earlier abortion.

We told her that if her baby was indeed dead that she should be at a better, more compassionate place for treatment and not to even go in that dismal, diabolical building. Another pro-lifer took her to a local ER where she got an ultrasound.


Well, my goodness, guess what? Her baby was just fine. This lady was beyond thrilled, beyond happy and filled with joy at the news that her baby was not dead.

So I suppose it could be accuratly stated that , since she did not know she was showing up for an abortion, she was at the clinic for different treatment.

And I can relate a story of a pro-life advocate posting information online that said that 90% of women who have abortions feel depression, that 60% of abortions result in in-ability to have children, and that you dont need a medical degree to work in an abortion clinic.

 

[kevin36]

The concept an abortion "ends a life" is a false premise because such a "life" has not yet begun.

According to who?

Unborn children have heartbeats, they respire, they respond to stimulus, they kick, they even get the hiccups...

Who are you to say when life begins? I know that all those things thgat I mentioned may not be occuring by the time an abortion is carried out, but isn't life LIFE, even before it's outside of it's mother?

 

[kevin36]

...the inherent woman hatred in the antichoice position...

I am distinctly against abortion, or "anti-choice" as you called it, and I also happen to hold women in general in extremely high regard- I consider them to be a gift of God, deserving of nothing but honor and respect.

How do you imply woman hatred onto people who wish to not see children killed?

 

[kevin36]

That's like saying people with severe dental problems all want to have sex with their dentists since they go to see them so often.

What?!

 

[KomissarSteve]

If the child can be safely birthed then there is NO reason for the abortion other then the love of aborting a child. Because clearly the person hates birthing the child so much that they would rather kill it even when they know full well the child could live and be birthed easily.

In fact it would be medically safer to birth the child as abortions run the risk of infection, uncontroled bleeding, and other serious medical side effect.

You should listen to some of the recorded 911 calls from abortion clinics where a patient had to be rushed to the hospital due to complication resulting from a legal "safe" abortion.

What are the statistics of this sort of occurrence?

 

[Monica02]

And I can relate a story of a pro-life advocate posting information online that said that 90% of women who have abortions feel depression, that 60% of abortions result in in-ability to have children, and that you dont need a medical degree to work in an abortion clinic.

So relate the story. What does that have to do with my story?

My story was about a woman who indeed showed up to an abortion clinic for a D & C for what she thought was a miscairrage, not an abortion.

The pro-choicers should be thrilled with this story - it affirms their claim that abortion clinics offer other types of medical treatment.

 

[MooCar93]

I am distinctly against abortion, or "anti-choice" as you called it, and I also happen to hold women in general in extremely high regard- I consider them to be a gift of God, deserving of nothing but honor and respect.

How do you imply woman hatred onto people who wish to not see children killed?

It's a shame, though, that you don't honor or respect them enough to let them make their own decisions concerning their bodies. That really sort of implies that you respect zygotes more than you do grown women.

 

[Angel4Truth]

honor n. High respect, as that shown for special merit; esteem

not exactly sure why someone you dont know who has decided to kill their baby demands honorfor the killing

 

[MooCar93]

honor n. High respect, as that shown for special merit; esteem

not exactly sure why someone you dont know who has decided to kill their baby demands honorfor the killing

Nobody is honoring women for having abortions. I'm talking about respect and honor for women as human beings (which is what I thought Kevin was talking about). Is that supposed to be conditional? If not, how do you determine which women are worthy of this basic human dignity and which aren't?

 

[MikeMcK]

It's a shame, though, that you don't honor or respect them enough to let them make their own decisions concerning their bodies. That really sort of implies that you respect zygotes more than you do grown women.

Where abortion is concerned, we're not talking about their bodies, but the bodies of the children.

These women have already made the decision concerning their body by choosing to have sex.

By having the child killed, the woman is no longer making a choice about her own body, but attempting to "erase" the consequences of the choice she's already made. The choice is no longer about her own body, but about whether she will allow another human being to live or to offer it up to a butcher with a medical diploma.

 

[Angel4Truth]

honor is a quality that is usually earned - so it doesnt apply - basic respect has nothing to do with oking a choice to sin. Can you show me in the bible where it says to honor or respect a choice to sin?

 

[TinkaBella]

So relate the story. What does that have to do with my story?

My story was about a woman who indeed showed up to an abortion clinic for a D & C for what she thought was a miscairrage, not an abortion.

The pro-choicers should be thrilled with this story - it affirms their claim that abortion clinics offer other types of medical treatment.

Your story sounds fabricated. I'm not calling you a liar I'm just saying it has all the elements and because of that doesn't sound all that convincing. Stories like that usually have more to them than meets the eye in their retelling.

I have no doubt that doctors can make mistakes when diagnosing patients, that is what second opinions are for.

 

[TinkaBella]

These women have already made the decision concerning their body by choosing to have sex.

Why does it always seem to come down to this? Women have sex, yes. WITH MEN. Sometimes their husbands, sometimes not of their choosing. The fact that they do what every single person on the planet does isn't reason to abdicate their control over their own body.

 

[MikeMcK]

Why does it always seem to come down to this? Women have sex, yes. WITH MEN. Sometimes their husbands, sometimes not of their choosing. The fact that they do what every single person on the planet does isn't reason to abdicate their control over their own body.

The problem is that it isn't about their body. It is about the life of another human being.

If they were to decide to, say, have a nose job or to buy a new pair of shoes, that's one thing. Those things affect their own body and no one else's.

But when they choose to have their baby killed, then that is taking the life of another human being.

 

[christalee4]

Where abortion is concerned, we're not talking about their bodies, but the bodies of the children.

These women have already made the decision concerning their body by choosing to have sex.

Stop treating the women as objects, who don't have minds or souls. Some of them didn't choose to get pregnant, and even those anti-abortion supporters believe that they should not be allowed to have abortions, for reasons of rape, incest, or in case the mother's life is in danger, feel that these women should not even be allowed to have access to birth control.

Women, as those who carry potential life, are not breeding wombs, nor inanimate life forms who exist to make babies. They have minds. They have souls and decisions. And by God, they got the vote. Too bad. You can't turn back time.

 

[KomissarSteve]

honor n. High respect, as that shown for special merit; esteem

not exactly sure why someone you dont know who has decided to kill their baby demands honorfor the killing

I don't see how killing babies has anything to do with this thread; fetuses are not babies.

 

[Hunterkirk]

There's no need for laypeople to determine such a thing when doctors are quite competent to do so.



Yes, and you should watch the Jerry Springer Show to get an accurate portrayal of trailer park life.

First off most doctors recognize that the standard abortion has nothing to do with medical reason. The Doctors at the clinics get paid by the abortion and as such they are bias toward doing the procedure.. you know they have to pay for their expensive cars.

Secondly as for the trailer park thing it really isnt any of your business what kind of life other people live. They are different from you, big deal at least they are not killing their children off. And if they do we have laws to deal with that, it is called murder.

As for abortion past viability that to is in my view murder unless a clear medical reason can be documented and supported. Clinc doctors are bias toward the abortion they dont get paid if the woman chooses not to kill her child.