pro choice? Quit crying about your miscarriage

[Miss Shelby]

Pro-Choice? Quit Crying About Your Miscarriage | momlogic.com

The website mom'logic' is rather an oxy-moron, but not because of this particular stellar blog post. Most of the moms on this site wouldn't know logic if it bit them in the rear. Notice how they spin out of control like tazmanian devils at this woman's opinion. If her opinion were really as meaningless as they say, they certainly wouldn't have had these reactions. (look to the page where it invites comments).

Oh yeah. She hit a BIG nerve. And she's 100 percent correct.

 

[Letalis]

Emotion is very rarely reasonable.

 

[lux et lex]

Clearly comparing vegetarianism to abortion is the most mind blowing logical connection there has ever been. How have I never thought of that before?

A fetus is just that, a conglomeration of cells, but sometimes we want to attach special meaning to particular things, even though it doesn't make logical sense. If you want to refer to your fetus as a baby, you're going to attach the notion that this is a baby to it. That doesn't make it so, but in your mind, that is a very real thing. Some people treat their pets like they are their children. It doesn't make it so, but to the people with the pets, it's very real. Please follow my logic and don't jump to the equation that pets = fetuses.

 

[Wicked Willow]

100 percent correct?

Far from it. Actually, the reasoning behind that article is kinda daft.

Mourning after a miscarriage has nothing to do with the status of the fetus, and everything to do with the hopes and visions attached to the pregnancy. They mourn for what might have been, for the babies the fetuses might have become if everything had worked out. (Additionally, there's the hormonal factor to be considered as well: you're not really in control of your emotions when your hormones run amuck.)

That still doesn't turn a 9-week-old fetus into an independent, self-aware organism. And it doesn't turn mourning pro-choicers into hypocrites, either.

 

[Archer93]

Pro-Choice? Quit Crying About Your Miscarriage | momlogic.com

The website mom'logic' is rather an oxy-moron, but not because of this particular stellar blog post. Most of the moms on this site wouldn't know logic if it bit them in the rear. Notice how they spin out of control like tazmanian devils at this woman's opinion. If her opinion were really as meaningless as they say, they certainly wouldn't have had these reactions. (look to the page where it invites comments).

Oh yeah. She hit a BIG nerve. And she's 100 percent correct.

Ah, the 'The argument must be correct, since it upsets people' theory.
I regret the necessity of Godwining this thread so early, but it's a bit like saying 'The Holocaust must be a hoax, because so many people get upset by the deniers'.

What is this writer's point, exactly? 'If you believe in reproductive rights, you have no business complaining when your own reproductive system goes wrong?'
Most elective abortions happen early- within the first 12 weeks. Many miscarriages happen similarly early.
A miscarriage at 4 and a half months is very different from an abortion at 5 weeks. The miscarried foetus was wanted- planned for, tentatively named, a due date was worked out, baby clothes and equipment are being bought, hopes for the baby's future were being thought out.
What is lost at that point is not just the growing cells, but the hopes and dreams. The potential. Factor in the shock value of suddenly realising what is happening, and it's pretty darn traumatic.

Abortions at 4 and a half months are also traumatic, by the way. They'll be for medical reasons. The foetus is seriously malformed, or dead already but not rejected by the body.

The attitude expressed in that article is horrendous. Vicious, unpleasant, and thoughtless. It's unsurprising that other people got upset and angry.

 

[Belk]

Pro-Choice? Quit Crying About Your Miscarriage | momlogic.com

The website mom'logic' is rather an oxy-moron, but not because of this particular stellar blog post. Most of the moms on this site wouldn't know logic if it bit them in the rear. Notice how they spin out of control like tazmanian devils at this woman's opinion. If her opinion were really as meaningless as they say, they certainly wouldn't have had these reactions. (look to the page where it invites comments).

Oh yeah. She hit a BIG nerve. And she's 100 percent correct.

Moms are incapable of logic? That seems kind of a broad brush don't you think?

 

[Miss Shelby]

Clearly comparing vegetarianism to abortion is the most mind blowing logical connection there has ever been. How have I never thought of that before?

A fetus is just that, a conglomeration of cells, but sometimes we want to attach special meaning to particular things, even though it doesn't make logical sense. If you want to refer to your fetus as a baby, you're going to attach the notion that this is a baby to it. That doesn't make it so, but in your mind, that is a very real thing. Some people treat their pets like they are their children. It doesn't make it so, but to the people with the pets, it's very real. Please follow my logic and don't jump to the equation that pets = fetuses.

nihilism much?

 

[Miss Shelby]

Moms are incapable of logic? That seems kind of a broad brush don't you think?

yes.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Ah, the 'The argument must be correct, since it upsets people' theory.

Yes. It takes a lot of resistant energy to stay in denial.

 

[Archer93]

yes.

Sour grapes or personal experience?

 

[Archer93]

Yes. It takes a lot of resistant energy to stay in denial.

In denial of what?

 

[Miss Shelby]

Sour grapes or personal experience?

good ole fashioned limpid insight.

 

[Jnwaco]

Some senior citizens aren't self aware anymore. Guess we should euthanize them, too.

 

[Archer93]

good ole fashioned limpid insight.

That doesn't quite answer the question. Is your insight due to being envious of women who have children because you don't have any yourself, or do you have several and have found that your mental capacity decreased with each childbirth?

 

[Skaloop]

Yes. It takes a lot of resistant energy to stay in denial.

Like people getting up in arms to deny women certain personal choices regarding reproductive health?

 

[Belk]

Some senior citizens aren't self aware anymore. Guess we should euthanize them, too.

What senior citizen is not self aware?

 

[Jnwaco]

What senior citizen is not self aware?

Have you visited a nursing home lately?

 

[Belk]

Have you visited a nursing home lately?

Not since last year. Do they have large populations that are in a vegetative state?

 

[Jnwaco]

Not since last year. Do they have large populations that are in a vegetative state?

What do large populations have to do with it? Most have a few people that are only periodically aware, yes.

 

[Miss Shelby]

Like people getting up in arms to deny women certain personal choices regarding reproductive health?

Did you read the blog post? I assume you did. What did she say about a woman’s right to choose? You can go back and refresh your memory if you need to.