Pro-abortion protesting behavior...

[Texas Lynn]

...there is a history of the clinic bothching abortions and women being unable to have children because of these mistakes. Maybe the deathscorts should try to protect women from the clinic.

<irony>If cardiologists and onocologists were subjected to this kind of harrassment then measures would be taken so that no one would ever die again <end irony>

 

[Texas Lynn]

So you believe that these deathscorts who stand only feet away from us for several hours every Saturday on a busy road in broad daylight think that there is a liklihood that we will someday become murderous?

Paul Hill was a fixture on the sidewalk next to a Pensecola clinic prior to his gunning down a doctor and a female clinic escort and severely wounding another, the escort's husband.

A more likely explaination is that these people know that about half the women who talk to us choose to not abort. They are pro-abortion and cannot stand that we offer women an alternative and that sometimes women choose life after meeting with us.

If you believe that you must believe the world is built of candy canes and marshmallows.

For every medical procedure, not just abortion, informed consent must be given. All alternatives are discussed. All reproductive health clinics do this in compliance with an ethical standard and the law, in contrast to phony anti-abortion clinics which falsely claim abortion causes breast cancer among their other prevarications.

 

[Texas Lynn]

Excellently put. I can think of few activities purported to be good which are as hideous and repulsive as protesting outside a clinic which offers abortions. IMO, everyone who performs such an act should be terribly ashamed of themselves.

I agree. It appears to be a form of antisocial behavior.

 

[Brennin]

So you believe that these deathscorts...

Deathscorts.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I know the Pastor of my church is a tight you know what. He wore sun glasses and left his priest clothes at home when he showed up at the prolife demonstration. He would not have some guy claiming what the Priest claimed in his church unless there was truth behind it. Even then I think God, or a few elders from the congregation, must have twisted his arm a bit.

The fellow who spoke said he was a priest and claimed to be a retired light colonel, he said he'd been to prison several times fighting for unborn babies. He praised Mary and God and seemed to be a fanatic against what he called the culture of death. He did say they bar b qued babies and peed on pro life demonstrators. His name escapes me and I personally don't feel drawn to his cause. His sincerity was not suspect to me.

One clue this is prevarication is that few if any anti-abortion protestors have gone to "prison". Generally prison is where convicted felons are incarcerated and i guarantee you few anti-abortion protestors have ever been sent there in their capacity as such. Paul Hill, certainly, and others who've killed doctors, nurses, and receptionists, but that's about it.

Now sometimes people confuse "jail" and "prison" but if that was all there was I'd be surprised.

The entire anecdote is so bizarre it would seem a reasonable person upon hearing it would be backing away slowly, careful the see where the person's hands were.

There are some "Light Colonels" who exist in a state of separation from reality, but most would have never made it that high up the chain of command without a firm basis in reality which the fellow clearly doesn't have unless he's totally into pulling your leg.

 

[Steezie]

Why should they feel guilty?

Telling them theyre killing thier child helps

 

[Angel4Truth]

For every medical procedure, not just abortion, informed consent must be given. All alternatives are discussed. All reproductive health clinics do this in compliance with an ethical standard and the law, in contrast to phony anti-abortion clinics which falsely claim abortion causes breast cancer among their other prevarications.

I can attest firsthand that the items in black are not true. Alternatives are not counceled, its only asked on a form if you agree to what you are about to do. No counceling whatever takes place. So to say this happens in all cases is as far from the truth as it gets.

 

[KomissarSteve]

I can attest firsthand that the items in black are not true. Alternatives are not counceled, its only asked on a form if you agree to what you are about to do. No counceling whatever takes place. So to say this happens in all cases is as far from the truth as it gets.

Evidence?

 

[Angel4Truth]

I went with a friend when she did it. No counceling took place whatever.

 

[KomissarSteve]

I went with a friend when she did it. No counceling took place whatever.

I don't believe you.

 

[Angel4Truth]

I don't believe you.

Why do you think i care?

 

[KomissarSteve]

Why do you think i care?

Because you're in a debate forum.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Im sorry, I didnt realize that the only person here was you. bye now.

 

[KomissarSteve]

Im sorry, I didnt realize that the only person here was you. bye now.

Apparently you misunderstood what I was getting at. I was trying to point out to you that, since you are posting in a debate forum, you automatically are inferring that you care what the people on that forum think. Otherwise, you would not bother trying to convince them through debate.

 

[HazyRigby]

Actually you do have a right on public property outside of restaurants to demonstrate against the consumtion of meat. You also could walk up to someone in a restaruant and discuss the issue with them and hand them literature. The owner probably could ask you to leave but you could still talk to the people.

But I wouldn't do that because I believe it to be cruel and unethical. Trying to stop people from doing a bad thing by doing a mean thing yourself is just no good.

 

[Angel4Truth]

Listen steve , no offense but if you dont believe me , i could care less. You asked me a question and in good faith i answered you. If you dont believe me, too bad. Does that make myself any more clear?

 

[KomissarSteve]

Listen steve , no offense but if you dont believe me , i could care less. You asked me a question and in good faith i answered you. If you dont believe me, too bad. Does that make myself any more clear?

I understood you the first time. My point is that if you're going to claim not to care what other people think on a topic, it probably isn't wise to post in a debate thread on said topic.

EDIT: More to the point, though - quite frankly, anecdotal evidence really doesn't hold nearly as much weight in debate as documented evidence. If you have documented evidence that corroborates your claim, then that's a different story. But just your word alone isn't all that convincing - not that anybody else's word would be any more convincing, mind you. It's just not documented evidence.

 

[Autumnleaf]

One clue this is prevarication is that few if any anti-abortion protestors have gone to "prison". Generally prison is where convicted felons are incarcerated and i guarantee you few anti-abortion protestors have ever been sent there in their capacity as such. Paul Hill, certainly, and others who've killed doctors, nurses, and receptionists, but that's about it.

Now sometimes people confuse "jail" and "prison" but if that was all there was I'd be surprised.

The entire anecdote is so bizarre it would seem a reasonable person upon hearing it would be backing away slowly, careful the see where the person's hands were.

There are some "Light Colonels" who exist in a state of separation from reality, but most would have never made it that high up the chain of command without a firm basis in reality which the fellow clearly doesn't have unless he's totally into pulling your leg.

Maybe you're right. If he were legit I'd think the Catholics here would speak up about it.

 

[Texas Lynn]

I can attest firsthand that the items in black are not true. Alternatives are not counceled, its only asked on a form if you agree to what you are about to do. No counceling whatever takes place. So to say this happens in all cases is as far from the truth as it gets.

How is it you make this bold claim?

 

[Texas Lynn]

I went with a friend when she did it. No counceling took place whatever.

Was this a private clinic or a nonprofit?

In the private reproductive health clinics nurses obtain consent beforeheand often so it is possible you were there after the fact.

At Planned Parenthood and similar group practices and such alternatives are always addressed.

This sounds like another FOAF story like the one in Post #1.