Pro-abortion protesters attack police

[muichimotsu]

People need to act responsibly or be responsible for their actions. I have no issue with imposing that standard.


This was fun, I am going to unwatch this thread now.

Taking responsibility doesn't fall into a narrow little box you're comfortable with and punishment can be meted out without a lifelong sense that you're a failure imposed by parents who can't acknowledge their child made a mistake but CAN learn from it in a way that doesn't require undue financial and mental burdens

 

[muichimotsu]

Which would also require a deliberate and concious effort to do. You don't slip and fall on a turkey baster or something. Again, 100% effective.

A deliberate and conscious effort in terms of such a thing can be done by one person without the other person's consent, as others have brought up, you assume it's always done by couples, even if that may be the more common manifestation

 

[John_Brown]

A deliberate and conscious effort in terms of such a thing can be done by one person without the other person's consent, as others have brought up, you assume it's always done by couples, even if that may be the more common manifestation

And as has allready been explained ad nausem that has nothing to do with the original point under discussion.

 

[muichimotsu]

And as has allready been explained ad nausem that has nothing to do with the original point under discussion.

Are you suggesting that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? News flash, you don't consent to pregnancy anymore than you consent to getting a cold, it's an independent process you don't consciously think of, kind of like your heartbeat

No one is claiming birth control is 100% effective: that's why abortion should be an option, especially if one can become aware of pregnancy at a point before it would be a concern beyond those who hypocritically don't advocate to treat fetuses same as babies in any other situation. Make child support start at conception, offer insurance coverage at conception. Consistency, right?

 

[muichimotsu]

And as has allready been explained ad nausem that has nothing to do with the original point under discussion.

The original point is that this story is anecdotal and not representative of those who want to advocate for abortion rights. Or did I miss some point you insinuated onto this?

 

[Aldebaran]

Are you suggesting that consent to sex is consent to pregnancy? News flash, you don't consent to pregnancy anymore than you consent to getting a cold, it's an independent process you don't consciously think of, kind of like your heartbeat

No one is claiming birth control is 100% effective: that's why abortion should be an option, especially if one can become aware of pregnancy at a point before it would be a concern beyond those who hypocritically don't advocate to treat fetuses same as babies in any other situation. Make child support start at conception, offer insurance coverage at conception. Consistency, right?

Consent to sex is consenting to the idea of becoming pregnant since it's the first step in the direction of reaching that outcome.

 

[disciple Clint]

Pretty sure that 0 children are being aborted, considering that abortions happen before birth.

They are human from day one of conception, they are young humans, they are therefore children or babies.

 

[disciple Clint]

Correct me if I am wrong...
Before RvW, white babies were adopted quickly and white parents would wait until they could adopt a white baby but many minority babies were never adopted.
Do you think that this would again become a problem with minority children staying in foster care all their lives?

Maybe, but if we look at adoptions that happen today there are people electing to take minority babies.

 

[DaisyDay]

Nope, no confirmation bias. That is not actually what that term even means for that matter. This is just "following the science" , if you do not engage in intercourse, you cannot become pregnant unless you are Mary.

That can put quite a strain on a marriage.

 

[DaisyDay]

In the context of birth control access it is, because obviously no birth control access applies in such a situation.

Well that's not true. The morning after pill, the regular pill, an IUD are all mostly effective against rape pregnancy.

 

[Desk trauma]

Well that's not true. The morning after pill, the regular pill, an IUD are all mostly effective against rape pregnancy.

All of which will soon be illegal in some states some of which also don’t have rape exemptions in their anti abortion laws.