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Priest explains why there is no hell

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Pretty much his views are exactly what I believe. :) This is a nice and interesting video.
Is this an Orthodox priest? Or a Catholic priest? Or some other kind of priest? The video didn’t seem to specify.
 
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I recognize the speaker's face. He is the Rt. Rev. John Spong, who served as the Episcopal bishop of Newark (northern New Jersey) from 1979-2000.

CF participants may recognize Bishop Spong's name, even if they don't know his face. He was a very liberal theologian, and many on CF will disagree with much of what he believed. I disagree with many things that he wrote. But he also had some insightful things to say, and he did important work within the Episcopal church that I am grateful for. In his role as bishop, I saw him act with great compassion towards the people in his care.
 
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I recognize the speaker's face. He is the Rt. Rev. John Spong, who served as the Episcopal bishop of Newark (northern New Jersey) from 1979-2000.

CF participants may recognize Bishop Spong's name, even if they don't know his face. He was a very liberal theologian, and many on CF will disagree with much of what he believed. I disagree with many things that he wrote. But he also had some insightful things to say, and he did important work within the Episcopal church that I am grateful for. In his role as bishop, I saw him act with great compassion towards the people in his care.
Thank you for identifying this person.
 
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Pretty much his views are exactly what I believe. :) This is a nice and interesting video.
I did a little sleuthing. This video is of an interview retired Episcopal bishop John Shelby Spong did with Keith Morrison of Dateline NBC back in August of 2006.
 
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Pretty much his views are exactly what I believe. :) This is a nice and interesting video.
So who you gonna' believe. . .this "priest" or the Lord Jesus?

"As for me and my house we will believe the Lord" (Josh 24:15) Jesus in Mk 9:43-48.

"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out (where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched). If your foot. . .your eye cause you to sin. . .cut it off. . .pluck it out... it is better to enter life crippled. . .(or) the kingdom of God with one eye. . .than to be thrown into hell where. . .the fire is not quenched."
 
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This thread was moved from General Theology as this topic belongs here and not there.
 
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So who you gonna' believe. . .this "priest" or the Lord Jesus?

"As for me and my house we will believe the Lord" (Josh 24:15) Jesus in Mk 9:43-48.

"If your hand causes you to sin, cut it off. It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out (where their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched). If your foot. . .your eye cause you to sin. . .cut it off. . .pluck it out... it is better to enter life crippled. . .(or) the kingdom of God with one eye. . .than to be thrown into hell where. . .the fire is not quenched."
Just for clarification Jesus actually said "Gehenna" not "Hell".
 
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Just for clarification Jesus actually said "Gehenna" not "Hell".
But you aren't you saying that Gehenna and Hell do not refer to the same thing, right?
 
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But you aren't you saying that Gehenna and Hell do not refer to the same thing, right?
I'll say there are different scholastic schools of thought on that.
 
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Pretty much his views are exactly what I believe. :) This is a nice and interesting video.
a "burning hell does not exist" ... hell is the land of of dead (the grave) ... a dormant sleep .... all wait there until they are resurrected .... ALL will be resurrected one day ... the 1st unto everlasting life .... the second to everlasting death (the 2nd death)
 
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Just for clarification Jesus actually said "Gehenna" not "Hell".
Gehenna is far worse than Sheol. The worm doesn't even die. The fire doesn't go out.
 
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Gehenna is far worse than Sheol. The worm doesn't even die. The fire doesn't go out.
Sheol is the location of the dead, where there are two places for humans:

1) Hades - fire of Sheol
2) Pardadise - blessings of Sheol
 
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