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But Bible says it will happen soon, not 2,000 years later. Thats the main problem of futurism.
But it's not a problem if some of these things began to come to pass back then and that some of these things are yet to come to pass. The book of Revelation also records the great white throne judgment. How can any reasonable person think that already came to pass back then, 2000 years ago?
I do not follow your reasoning here. It was impossible for a throne to be white or great, 2,000 years ago? Or what is so unreasonable about it?The book of Revelation also records the great white throne judgment. How can any reasonable person think that already came to pass back then, 2000 years ago?
I do not follow your reasoning here. It was impossible for a throne to be white or great, 2,000 years ago? Or what is so unreasonable about it?
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened."That judgment involves Christ bodily raising the dead then standing before Him in order to be judged and sentenced. No one could possibly think that already came to pass 2000 years ago. When the book of Revelation was written, whether it be before 70 AD or after 70 AD, Christ has already returned back to heaven by then. The great white throne judgment does not occur while Christ is still in heaven. It is meaning sometime after He has returned.
Plenty of resonable people, futurists even, believe People (Christians) go to Heaven when they die today, which would be impossible until AFTER the GWT Judgment.
"Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened."
Rev 20:11
If you are talking about this place, there is nothing written about it being in bodies or in a physical realm. Actually, when we read the imagery of earth and heavens to be put away, then we can hardly expect it was to happen visibly on this earth.
Your previous point was that those people have to be bodily raised. Which is not in the biblical text about the white throne.The point is not so much where it might take place, but rather, when it takes place.
This place is not about resurrection. The term "hell" can lead to various misconceptions, because of our religio-cultural baggage we put to that.As to the resurrection involving the lost, Jesus said in Matthew 10:28 that one should fear Him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. This alone proves that even the lost are resurrected bodily. Can't destroy someone's body in hell if they are bodiless at the time.
How can God coming to earth for our redemption be an abomination? That is really twisting Scripture into a pretzel.Prove that the abomination that made Jerusalem desolate wasn’t murdering Jesus.
Your previous point was that those people have to be bodily raised. Which is not in the biblical text about the white throne.
They had all they needed. So we should also have all we need. Scripture interprets scripture, unless you want to have a dispensational view. Then anything can interpret scripture.
I do not like this principle too much, I have seen people connecting so random out of context places, through my Christian life, that I am very careful with that, now.If Scripture interprets Scripture
But then we do not have any certainity that our additions actually belongs into that., it doesn't need to be in that block of text in order for it to be so.
Take the following parable, for instance.
Luke 16:24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
Some think this is already taking place as we speak, that this happens to someone upon death. What this verse illustrates is, that one is in a body while being punished like this. One does not descend bodily into hell upon death nor do souls have tongues and fingers. A body would have a tongue and fingers, though.
Then there is this as well.
Matthew 13:42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Souls don't have teeth but bodies would. You might argue that this simply means they are cast into a furnace of fire while still physically alive, thus they haven't even died yet, thus no one being resurrected from the dead. That would probably be a valid argue if you were to argue that. But that doesn't mean you are correct, though.
Nope, not making things up. Just using scripture to interpret scripture.So those without a dispensational view are just making things up, and there are literal ages, since Genesis 1, and not just one where nothing has changed?
"Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."
You never know then, maybe soul sleep is the solution? Though that is not my position, I still see it as a possibility.
The two accounts in Matthew 24 and Luke 21 differ from one another.Are you suggesting the whole debate started between Luke and Matthew? Luke was a preterist and Matthew was a futurist?
Depends on if you think it already happened or not, no?Don't we all end up with glorious future after death, even if we believe biblical prophecies already took place?
The AC is not a dispensational issue. All 4 views have this error. All demand a human AC at a time of trouble.Provide a quote of any Scripture which contains the exact expression "the antichrist" referring to dispensationalism's delusional single future antichrist.
Eternity "now" is not the Biblical eternity, or you would have proved that with Scripture. We have not even reached the end of Daniel's 70th week. That has to happen before the Millennial Kingdom, and then the NHNE is still not eternity. Eternity is outside of creation.Does not make any sense. Its preterism that believes we are in eternity now.
I’m pretty sure that’s not a postmillennial view.The AC is not a dispensational issue. All 4 views have this error. All demand a human AC at a time of trouble.
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