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Preterism, both full & partial, are false.

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Oh, I agree that there will be no rebuilt temple in Jerusalem.


I fully realize that you agree with that. But that is beside the point in this particular case.

Yet, one reason why, maybe this is not true in your case, I don't know---that some interpreters refuse to consider the possibility that Matthew 24:15-26 might not be involving the first century and 70 AD, is to then agree with Pretribbers that it's involving a literal rebuilt temple in Jerusalem in the final days of this age.

That is clearly a valid reason to not bother with considering that Matthew 24:15-26 might not be involving the first century and 70 AD. That should be the end of it then, nothing further to discuss since it is preposterous that there is going to be this rebuilt temple where these things involving Matthew 24:15-26 are fulfilled. Except that's not the only option. There is another option, these events involving an AOD in the holy place is not to be taken literal, as if it will be involving these things taking place in a literal brick and mortar temple. Whether that be the 2nd temple in the first century before it was destroyed, or if it's a rebuilt temple in the future.

Daniel 12 proves a literal temple can't be meant since a resurrection event is at the end of these things. A resurrection event that will likely take place sometime in the 21st century. Therefore, the unequaled time of trouble and the AOD during it, it has to involve the same era of time the resurrection event will be involving, obviously. Since there couldn't possibly be a gap of thousands of years between what Daniel 12:1 is involving and this resurrection event in the next verse.
 
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, the unequaled time of trouble and the AOD during it, it has to involve the same era of time the resurrection event will be involving, obviously. Since there couldn't possibly be a gap of thousands of years between what Daniel 12:1 is involving and this resurrection event in the next verse.
Sure, that's obvious that the unequaled time of trouble in Daniel 12:1 (and the AOD during it) are linked together with the resurrection event of Daniel 12:2 in the same period. You're right - there is no gap of thousands of years between them.

But you also have to include Daniel's time-relevant information in Daniel 12:7. The power of the "holy people" would be shattered by the time ALL of those things which Daniel had seen in his visions would be FINISHED.

This "power of the holy people" being shattered IS NOT US BELIEVERS as God's holy people being shattered in the future by the time all of Daniel's visions would be fulfilled. This particular "holy people" in Daniel 12:7 was the OT title of ethnic Israel who was FIRST called "Your holy people" back in the OT (such as Isaiah 63:18 for the one example I gave). The power of THAT "holy people" / ethnic Israel was most definitely shattered in the AD 66-70 era. But before that shattering process was concluded, ALL of Daniel's visions were finished - INCLUDING the Daniel 12:1 & 2 tribulation and a bodily resurrection in which Daniel himself was to participate.
 
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Yes, they did. Look at the kind of burned up "works" which 1 Corinthians 3:11-15 speaks about. "For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ. Now if any man build upon this foundation gold, silver, precious stones, wood, hay, stubble; Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. If any man's work abide which he hath built thereupon, he shall receive a reward. If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire."

This in addition to the works of men's hands being burned up, such as the physical temple system of which the Jews had made an idol, when compared to Christ's spiritual temple not made of hands.
It certainly has not happened yet. Those same works are still around and even more so today.

All means all, not some, in a tiny section of earth.
 
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"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; ...... the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."
Actually, this is what it says.

But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar and the elements will be destroyed with intense heat, and the earth and its works will be burned up.
— 2 Peter 3:10

That was future for Peter, but not for us.
 
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It certainly has not happened yet. Those same works are still around and even more so today.
Those "works" were wiped out back in the first century. Humanity living since then continued their own pattern of building a variety of works upon the foundation - some worthless, and some durable.

Christ told His own generation that "Many will say to me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." (Matthew 7:22-23).

When accused of casting out devils by the power of Satan, Christ asked those Pharisees, "...by whom do your sons cast them out?" The Pharisees of that day thought that they were doing their exorcisms in the name of the Lord their God, but not according to Christ. Those "works" they were performing were considered to be "wood, hay, and stubble" when it came to whether the Lord their God acknowledged them as His own in that judgment day.

God who is called "a consuming fire" in Hebrews 12:29 in that first century generation had "NOW" promised that He was then going to shake - not only the earth - but also heaven. The purpose would be to "remove" those shaken things, as of things that were made, so that only the unshaken things of the kingdom of God would remain.
 
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