Presbyterian/Reformed(non-baptist) Forum???

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 28, 2009

FreeinChrist said:
I think your request would have come off better had you simply requested a Presbyterian forum for the purposes of discussing not only the 5 pts of Calvinism but also a shared belief in paedobaptism, the concept of a presbytery, issues within the organized Presbyterian churches, etc.

In labeling the request as Presbyterian/Reformed (NonBaptist), you set up a negative request - you created a request for a forum that would be free of Baptists (though accepting of other nonBaptist nonPresbyterian Reformed believers according to the title) rather than make a simple positive request for a denominational forum. That is how it came off to me and I am sure it did to others. As a result, there is more conflict in this thread than was needed.

Now some questions:

What about Cumberland Presbyterians - would they be accepted? Yep.

I saw a statement that Presbyterians "believe in the undefinable presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper" - so what about the position of the Orthodox Presbyterian who holds to the Westminister Confession which includes:

Does that fit? Is that what you are talking about? (If so, I don't see a real difference with Baptists in this fwiw. But that is another topic for another forum) yep and yep.

The way I see it...any presbyterian will be welcome to call this new forum home even if the word presbyterian isn't officially in their denominations name and there are plenty out there. This is why I differentiated in the threads title...by declaring Reformed(NON-Baptist)...it's quite simple and is not offensive in the least, and IMHO people that got offended don't know any better and don't know Presbyerianism, and reacted out of ignorance.

Forget I said anything about Traditional Reformed, or whatever.

And to be honest, there seems to be less than a handful of people here actively supporting this idea anyway...so the ball's in CF's court now...I've said my peace.

DD2008 · Aug 28, 2009

FreeinChrist said:
I think your request would have come off better had you simply requested a Presbyterian forum for the purposes of discussing not only the 5 pts of Calvinism but also a shared belief in paedobaptism, the concept of a presbytery, issues within the organized Presbyterian churches, etc.

In labeling the request as Presbyterian/Reformed (NonBaptist), you set up a negative request - you created a request for a forum that would be free of Baptists (though accepting of other nonBaptist nonPresbyterian Reformed believers according to the title) rather than make a simple positive request for a denominational forum. That is how it came off to me and I am sure it did to others. As a result, there is more conflict in this thread than was needed.

Now some questions:

What about Cumberland Presbyterians - would they be accepted?

I saw a statement that Presbyterians "believe in the undefinable presence of Christ in the Lord's Supper" - so what about the position of the Orthodox Presbyterian who holds to the Westminister Confession which includes:

Does that fit? Is that what you are talking about? (If so, I don't see a real difference with Baptists in this fwiw. But that is another topic for another forum)

Yes.

7. Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the visible elements, in this sacrament, do then also, inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally but spiritually, receive, and feed upon, Christ crucified, and all benefits of his death: the body and blood of Christ being then, not corporally or carnally, in, with, or under the bread and wine; yet, as really, but spiritually, present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses.

Baptists don't believe in any presence of Christ in the sacrament at all. They don't even believe it is a sacrament but an ordinance. They hold to the symbolic view only.

Tonks · Aug 28, 2009

Regarding silence...a bunch of us are just away this weekend. I for example am at a wedding and posting from my iPhone...which is horrible. Hopefully this will be wrapped up soonest at the beginning g of the week

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 28, 2009

Tonks said:
Regarding silence...a bunch of us are just away this weekend. I for example am at a wedding and posting from my iPhone...which is horrible. Hopefully this will be wrapped up soonest at the beginning g of the week

LOL just enjoy the wedding.

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 29, 2009

FreeinChrist said:
Does that fit? Is that what you are talking about? (If so, I don't see a real difference with Baptists in this fwiw. But that is another topic for another forum)

FWIW there is just as much difference between Presbyterians and Baptists as there are between Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

ReformedChapin · Aug 31, 2009

DD2008 said:
Yes.

7. Worthy receivers, outwardly partaking of the visible elements, in this sacrament, do then also, inwardly by faith, really and indeed, yet not carnally and corporally but spiritually, receive, and feed upon, Christ crucified, and all benefits of his death: the body and blood of Christ being then, not corporally or carnally, in, with, or under the bread and wine; yet, as really, but spiritually, present to the faith of believers in that ordinance, as the elements themselves are to their outward senses.

Baptists don't believe in any presence of Christ in the sacrament at all. They don't even believe it is a sacrament but an ordinance. They hold to the symbolic view only.

The red part actually depends on the baptist. Several of them still believe in a spiritual presence.

Supreme · Aug 31, 2009

NRB said:
FWIW there is just as much difference between Presbyterians and Baptists as there are between Eastern Orthodox and Roman Catholics.

That's true. Presbyterianism is a completely different faith.

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 31, 2009

ReformedChapin said:
The red part actually depends on the baptist. Several of them still believe in a spiritual presence.

The reality is that this EXTREMELY RARE and is not at all normative of the baptist faith in general.

LiturgyInDMinor · Aug 31, 2009

C'mon CF staff...over 66 posts and over 800 views(that surprised even me! lol)...we gotta deserve our own forum!!!!!

Tonks · Sep 1, 2009

done

Presbyterian - Christian Forums

AMR · Sep 1, 2009

Tonks said:
done

Presbyterian - Christian Forums

Thank you, CF management!

AMR

kenrapoza · Sep 1, 2009

Wow!!

LiturgyInDMinor · Sep 1, 2009

Awesome!!!!!!!!

DeaconDean · Sep 1, 2009

Congrats, I am sincerely happy for you and my prayers have been answered.

God Bless

Till all are one.

A New Dawn · Sep 3, 2009

I'm sooo glad you got your own forum. Now maybe the nastiness in SR-R will go away.

LiturgyInDMinor · Sep 3, 2009

A New Dawn said:
I'm sooo glad you got your own forum. Now maybe the nastiness in SR-R will go away.

So whatcha tryin' ta say here ND?? HMMM?????

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