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There are two calibers for AR-15's. One is the 5.56/.223 and the 7.62/.308.

You'd be surprised at the variants out there now. Tons of different calibers. That being said, I'd rather have an AK variant than an AR in a survival scenario.
 
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Do you expect anyone to tell what they actually have? ;)

First rule of Fight Club...I mean Prepping...:D

I really liked Fight Club last week, I was a bit late so I missed the rules.
 
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I'm kind of curious though, like, why would people go to great lengths preparing for a blood bath when they could just go to Canada or something?

I don't think that having a few decent weapons would be 'preparing for a blood-bath.' I wholeheartedly believe in hunting and personal defense. I wouldn't go on a rampage, but I wouldn't stand idly by while others did.
 
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Eh, well, fair enough. I have my hiking gear, my fishing equipment, and a gun too if I need it. I'm all prepped to just walk away. I'm not so sure about the fortification route. Srsly, have you seen what these modern-day bunker busters can do?

Ok, there are tons of different scenarios, but try this one on. A Mass Coronal Ejection speeds toward Earth. It fries the entire power grid from Florida, north. There are no food shipments. No electricity. In three days, the stores are empty. What do you do?

The law of 3.

3 minutes without air, you die.
3 days without water, you die.
3 months without food, you die.

It may take years to get the grid back up.

Surface water may contain contaminants. How will you start a fire? When everyone is out there hunting for the same resources as you, how will you eat? What happens when all the wild food sources within hundreds of miles are exhausted?
 
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Ok, there are tons of different scenarios, but try this one on. A Mass Coronal Ejection speeds toward Earth. It fries the entire power grid from Florida, north. There are no food shipments. No electricity. In three days, the stores are empty. What do you do?

The law of 3.

3 minutes without air, you die.
3 days without water, you die.
3 months without food, you die.

It may take years to get the grid back up.

Surface water may contain contaminants. How will you start a fire? When everyone is out there hunting for the same resources as you, how will you eat? What happens when all the wild food sources within hundreds of miles are exhausted?

I'm all set with my water filtration equipment, and I'd stay on the move. I have plenty of maps.
 
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I'm all set with my water filtration equipment, and I'd stay on the move. I have plenty of maps.

What do you do when a groups of heavily armed people decide that they want your stuff?

BOB/GHB- Bug out bag/Get home bag. Should contain 72 hours of supplies.
BOL- Bug Out Location.
Cashes- Buried supplies.
Canned food can last for decades if kept in a cool dry place.
 
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What do you do when a groups of heavily armed people decide that they want your stuff?

No problem. I would tell them that I may have contracted ebola.

BOB/GHB- Bug out bag/Get home bag. Should contain 72 hours of supplies.
BOL- Bug Out Location.
Cashes- Buried supplies.
Canned food can last for decades if kept in a cool dry place.

Canned food is heavy. What would you do if diseased rats somehow found their way into your bunker?
 
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No problem. I would tell them that I may have contracted ebola.



Canned food is heavy. What would you do if diseased rats somehow found their way into your bunker?

Bunkers are static and hard to defend without "numbers". It also difficult for rodents or other "critters" to get into them. Caches are small and difficult to detect, but dont hold alot. But there is a middle ground.

You do know that its almost impossible for a rat to chew into a metal can?

I never carry a fishing rod. Too bulky. "Trotline". Ounces make pounds and pounds can kill.
 
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I loath the whole prepper thing because in my experience, it's terribly destructive.

My ex-wife's parents were preppers. Well, mainly her mom. Her mom couldn't tear her eyes away from her laptop for more than a few minutes because she's constantly scanning all these doomsday sites to hear what these whackjobs hiding out in the Wind River Range had to say about current events and how it meant the Antichrist was coming or the Illuminati were at work.

Her parents retired young, in their thirties, because her dad was something of an inventor and was able to sell one of his inventions for a hefty sum in the mid-1990's. Well, in 1998 her mom became obsessed with the Y2K thing and convinced her dad to sell their expensive custom built home and dump all of their remaining millions into a doomsday hideout in the mountains.

The place is completely off the grid and the back 1/3 of their machine shop is stocked with seven (yes, seven) years of nonperishable food supplies.

What drove me mad about the whole thing was the undercurrent of fear that governed their every movement. Every decision they made was because Steve Quayle predicted this, or Alex Jones said that or Perry Stone believes this or Pat Robertson was "shown" that.

Absolute LUNACY.

I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how many times they've been wrong because they thought some kind of doomsday event was going to happen so they gathered their family in their hideout, the time came and went and they were left with egg on their face.


NOW... preparing for the zombie apocalypse, that's a different story.
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I recognize that there's a (small) chance that some disaster will occur and I'll be ill-prepared, but I don't see myself having enough will to live in that scenario, anyway. If civilization collapses, I'm fine with not being around to watch it happen.

I'll probably feel differently when I have kids, but I still don't think the odds are high enough to justify prepping.
I'm of a similar mind.

I don't mean to be a downer on such an otherwise upbeat
topic, :D but I figure if I'm stocked up, the most it'll do is
provide an extra week or two of living in post-apocalyptic
misery, something I don't think would be quite as romantic
in reality as the movies make it out to be.

The worst is it'll make me a target for the less-prepped.
Who knows what they won't do for my secret stash
of Klondike bars.

If I'm prepped at all, it'll be to simply expedite (what
I'll likely perceive as) the inevitable and just, you know,
hit life's Reset-button. From there I'll either enter
Paradise, reincarnate*, or linger around as a ghost to
haunt other people's bunkers. :)

*although if I take birth again into that same doomsday
scenario I tried to escape, I'll scream. Just sayin'....


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I recognize that there's a (small) chance that some disaster will occur and I'll be ill-prepared, but I don't see myself having enough will to live in that scenario, anyway. If civilization collapses, I'm fine with not being around to watch it happen.

I'll probably feel differently when I have kids, but I still don't think the odds are high enough to justify prepping.

Every scenario has a different set of odds. But, when you combine all the scenarios, the likely hood that something dramatic will happen increases. The trick is to try and be ready for any disaster. Whether its a solar flare, an outbreak of tornadoes, earthquake, eruption of one of the 2-3 super volcanoes in the US...doesnt matter. Just be ready to protect yourself and those you love.
 
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*raises hand*

I am, but I don't do it for religious (doomsday) reasons. I happen to think it's just practical. You never know when you're going to lose a job, or something happens in your area that effects your ability to do the basics - like have food to eat.

So if I'm flush I stock up on stuff.
 
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