My girlfriend and I have been seriously dating for more than a year now. We both have been looking through various websites approving/ and disapproving this act. But we cannot find a solid answer, because the Bible doesn't specifically mention oral sex but on the same note it says to flee from anything sexually immoral. I would like to know what you guys say about it and justify your reasoning.
-Chris
That's his prerogative, and that's her prerogative for choosing to be with someone who has to "talk" someone else into oral sex. Why would she choose to be with a person like that? That's as much of a question as why he would try to push her past her boundaries, and if he's trying to talk her into it, then we can take a wild guess that she has already established boundaries against it.Id like to propose a scenario: You are not married, but plan to do so some day. That means your future spouse is out there somewhere. They could be in school, at their job, volunteering, exercising, sleeping, or maybe they are sitting in a room alone with another individual that they find attractive. As you read this, that other person is trying to talk your future spouse into oral sex. If you could say something to them, what would it be. Would you say, Go ahead honey, just dont go all the way. I think youd feel pretty sick about what that other person is trying to do to your future husband or wife.
If a guy needs to place his genitals into the mouth of his gf to show her how much she means to him, then it shows exactly what she means to him (girls too)
That's a truly bizarre statement. Nobody places their genitals in someone's mouth. It's the other way around, dude. And your statement makes it seem like consensual oral sex is degrading to the giver.
I'm referring to premarital oral sex, which I believe to be very degrading to both parties involved. I know you view this very differently, however. But we all get our opinions.
How is pre-marital oral sex more degrading then oral sex within marriage? I don't understand why it would change.
Because that's your opinion we all get our own
Genesis 2 said:23The man said,
"(A)This is now bone of my bones,
And flesh of my flesh;
She shall be called Woman,
Because she was taken out of Man."
24(B)For this reason a man shall leave his father and his mother, and be joined to his wife; and they shall become one flesh.
25(C)And the man and his wife were both naked and were not ashamed.
1 Corinthians 6 said:15(A)Do you not know that (B)your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? (C)May it never be!
16Or (D)do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, "(E)THE TWO SHALL BECOME ONE FLESH."
17But the one who joins himself to the Lord is (F)one spirit with Him.
Hebrews 13 said:
Proverbs 5 said:18Let your (A)fountain be blessed,
And (B)rejoice in the (C)wife of your youth.
19As a loving (D)hind and a graceful doe,
Let her breasts satisfy you at all times;
Be exhilarated always with her love.
20For why should you, my son, be exhilarated with an (E)adulteress
And embrace the bosom of a (F)foreigner?
I agree with what you are saying, but how you got to those conclusions is confusing. I didnt really understand your process. But this thread isnt for me, hopefully the OP is smarter.Here's why I view it as wrong outside of marriage
Some people think that you are only joined as one flesh when you are married to the person... however that argument hits a dead end when you get to this verse.
I can conclude from this that sexual activity joins together the two that are participating in it.
You can then make the argument that if you only have sex with that person and marry them eventually, its not sinning. OK, I can see that logic and I am willing to agree with that argument. But what happens if you end up breaking up? What if you move on and have sex with another person? You are joining yourself with another, who has possibly joined with others in the past, etc.
The word used here for fornication is "inappropriate contentea" which is any kind of illicit sex, which includes sex outside of marriage. Ask any reputable Bible scholar.
Sex is a beautiful thing and we can see that God has created it for our enjoyment. But he created it to be enjoyed with our spouses, as we see in Genesis. Sex is great and the only God honoring way it can be done is within marriage. Just read Song of Solomon. Sex is the most fulfilling when it is between two loving committed people who have bound themselves together in marriage and live to honor God.
Now this is my interpretation. Hopefully the Holy Spirit will convict you as you read scripture as to what you are allowed to do, but I think scripture makes a pretty good argument against it.
But your quote made it sound like it was degrading to the giver, specifically. I never want that attitude to be prevalent, because I don't think either party should feel degraded in the process of giving or receiving, but especially giving. Everybody is responsible for their own decisions.Well I think that oral sex, as is any sexual contact, is no appropriate before marriage. As within marriage I see nothing wrong with it, so long as it is not replacing sexual contact designed for procreation (need I get specific?) As Imperial Phantom said, its your prerogative. Within the bonds of marriage I dare say anything goes, so long as its within your Christian beliefs, which are yours and yours alone.
So thats why I say unacceptable before, and totally up to you after marriage.