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Prehistory, somewhat Biblical

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Ah my mistake.
Cteation" science" is an oxymoron. It is impossible.

Note a yec with a PhD, in paleontology, no less, a Dr K Wise.

"...even if all the evidence in the universe turns against yec, I will
still be yec as that is what the bible seems to indicate".

I trust you understand that is a perfect example, the refined essence of intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Yes and to clarify I'm not nor was ever a YEC I'm an OEC
Doesn't hurt to clarify.
There are of course many subdivisions ofoec some of which
do require the same ideological rejection of contrary data.
 
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DiscipleOfChrist85 said: You studied many [alternative sciences] yet you produce no evidence to back up your claim and you realize alternate science is not science. If alternate scientists cannot back up their claims with repeatable testable and falsifiable evidence then no one has any reason to take them seriously.

LenKin: I'm surprised you seem totally unfamiliar with alternative science. Alternative doesn't mean non-science. It means science that isn't promoted by the mainstream. Have you heard of alternative health? It means health facts not promoted by the mainstream. Alternatives are often superior, not inferior. Alternative scientists often back up their findings much better than does the mainstream. Flood geology is one alternative science. It used to be mainstream until sometime in the early 1900s, when big business gained control of most science and forced out Flood Geology advocates. Most science has thus become corrupted, largely by those opposing Christianity IMO. Science was started by top Christians in the 1400s as a way to improve conditions for humanity, as the Bible admonishes. Flood Geology was popular among early scientists until corruption took hold. But the greatest findings have come about in the last few decades. Creationists are near the forefront, though I'm not a Creationist myself.

DiscipleOfChrist85: You think your open minded but you assume that you think you are judged to be ignorant yet you haven't produced all data to back up your claims. Can you explain what you think shale comes from and why mainstream science has it wrong with a creditable source.

LenKin: I did say where shale came from. It came from one or more Great Floods. This site newgeology.us/ explains that clay and sand likely eroded from Pangaea onto its continental shelf for some centuries before the Flood/s. John Baumgardner et al have a scientific paper that explains further that tsunamis during the Flood/s removed mud, sand and lime from the sea floor, esp. from the continental shelf, and deposited much of the sediments onto Pangaea. The science site sedimentology.fr explains how floods sort sediments into separate layers of sand, clay and lime. After centuries of drying out, the sediments lithify, turning to rock. Mainstream science avoids looking too close at how rock strata form, because they are incentivized not to support Flood Geology, which undermines their views on the age of the strata and the fossils and on evolution etc. It's similar to how climate scientists have been incentivized to support AGW. The incentives I'm referring to are the funding of science. Government and universities pay more to AGW & mainstream Geology scientists who write grants requesting funds for studies, but they don't pay much to alternative scientists.
 
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I don't favor YEC or OEC. I guess both can be called creation science. An oxymoron is a phrase that seems contradictory, but I doubt if anything can be scientifically proven to be an oxymoron, because I think oxymorons are subjective. To be a science a subject must be falsifiable. Agreed? Can creation be falsified? If there is an omniscient being, then to that being, yes, everything is probably falsifiable.

Creationists seem to have good evidence that the continents, or at least the granite under the Grand Canyon, is not over about 8,000 years old, based on the rate of loss of helium from zircons. Robert Gentry, a physicist, I think, found from radiohaloes in granite that granite crystalized almost instantly, instead of over millions of years. But the rest of the Earth could still be much older. So the continents could be young and the Earth old. My friend, Charles Chandler, calculated that the Earth can't be much over 300 million years old, based on heat loss from radioactive decay. But I think it could be as little as a few ten thousand years old.

Two different theories of how the continents formed seem plausible to me. One theory is that a Moon-sized granitic asteroid soft-landed on Earth and spread out like a pancake, but hardened before forming a layer all around the globe. That was the supercontinent, Pangaea. Another theory is that a large planet was close to Earth when it was molten and one side of Earth faced that planet and the lighter granitic magma floated to the surface and congregated under the planet, forming Pangaea. I favor that theory a bit more than the first one. There is mythological evidence that Saturn, Venus & Mars were formerly close to Earth, all in a line.
 
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... My friend, Charles Chandler, calculated that the Earth can't be much over 300 million years old, based on heat loss from radioactive decay. But I think it could be as little as a few ten thousand years old.
It's not difficult to discover the history of how the current age was arrived at, and it's worth noting that radioactive decay generates heat...
 
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Your posts add no information. They seem to be nothing more than strings of buzzwords strung together. "Expand the paradigm!" "Realise your actuality!" That sort of thing.

I don't care about slogans, and if that's all you have to offer, I'm not going to waste my time. I want actual EVIDENCE.

And no, a YouTube video that says what you want to hear is NOT evidence, since anyone can put anything on YouTube.
 
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I shared plenty of articles and videos

Which, as I've stated several times now, are nothing more than people who are saying what you want to hear. How about you present articles from people who actually have qualifications in the fields they are speaking in?
 
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