Pregnancy Accommodations

[ChristsSoldier115]

He has to not only pay her wages but he has to pay somebody to do the job she's no longer doing

Just take it out of her vacation. Think she has paid vacations? He isn't losing any money. If she doesn't have paid vacations, why the heck is she even working there?

 

[MachZer0]

Just take it out of her vacation. Think she has paid vacations? He isn't losing any money. If she doesn't have paid vacations, why the heck is she even working there?

That's an arrangement she should have planned for

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

That's an arrangement she should have planned for

lol You have kids? pregnancies aren't exactly on the clock accurate in case you forgot.

He should just automatically take it out. She doesn't have to make arrangements for something that is unpredictable like that. He isn't losing money. Just deduct it from ehr vacation days. She just won't have a vacation later.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I hope the SC sides in her favor. Women should not be fired for bringing life into this world.

I do not believe a woman who is currently expecting should have the right to be in a protected class. If you are expecting do not try to get a job. If you find out you are expecting and will be giving birth any time PRIOR to having worked a year with your employer do not expect your job back.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Just take it out of her vacation. Think she has paid vacations? He isn't losing any money. If she doesn't have paid vacations, why the heck is she even working there?

Most places here do not offer paid vacation or paid sick days.

In all of the places I've worked (six) I got no paid time off (five didn't offer at all, my boss in one refused to officially hire me and kept me through a temp service for more than a year so I was able to be denied insurance benefits plus paid leave and a higher wage.) Three of these places of employment were huge corporations (including the one that kept me on temp). The other three were small, local businesses.

If you get sick, you either come to work hacking and throwing up, or you take a hit to the paycheck. This is part of the reason why I think businesses are greedy and need to be kept in check by regulations...

 

[trunks2k]

Her job was protected until she was able to return to the level of duties her job required, but she was asking for light duty until that time it appears.

This will come down to one main criteria I believe; what is a reasonable accommodation the business could make, without placing undue burden on the business.

My understanding that an important point in the lawsuit is that, she claims, the company had a history of giving light duty to employees that had other short term disabilities for injuries that were not work related. Under the law, they would need to the same thing for pregnant employees. The company denies that it had done that, but supposedly the plaintiff has evidence that they have and the company has not shown that it hasn't.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Most places here do not offer paid vacation or paid sick days.

In all of the places I've worked (six) I got no paid time off (five didn't offer at all, my boss in one refused to officially hire me and kept me through a temp service for more than a year so I was able to be denied insurance benefits plus paid leave and a higher wage.) Three of these places of employment were huge corporations (including the one that kept me on temp). The other three were small, local businesses.

If you get sick, you either come to work hacking and throwing up, or you take a hit to the paycheck. This is part of the reason why I think businesses are greedy and need to be kept in check by regulations...

You know what someone is going to say in response of that right?

"You should better yourself to get a better job that allows vacation days."

I agree with you though, because I know a lot of people who have plenty of certificates and qualifications for great jobs, but there are no jobs, because the great jobs they did have were outsourced overseas and they were laid off.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Most places here do not offer paid vacation or paid sick days.

In all of the places I've worked (six) I got no paid time off (five didn't offer at all, my boss in one refused to officially hire me and kept me through a temp service for more than a year so I was able to be denied insurance benefits plus paid leave and a higher wage.) Three of these places of employment were huge corporations (including the one that kept me on temp). The other three were small, local businesses.

If you get sick, you either come to work hacking and throwing up, or you take a hit to the paycheck. This is part of the reason why I think businesses are greedy and need to be kept in check by regulations...

I hate to tell you, but it will stay that way.

Sometimes it is greed, bit I will say this sometimes the employees bring it on themselves.

You will not be the first or the last one to take a dock when you choose to work by the hour and get sick.

By choose, I meant take a particular job no matter if it was really an option or not.

 

[trunks2k]

I hate to tell you, but it will stay that way.

At least when it comes to sick time, that is slowly changing. More cities are starting to institute mandatory paid sick leave. Philadelphia is probably going to do it soon - a previous bill that had easily passed the city council was vetoed by the mayor, but there's apparently been some recent agreement and the mayor has stated he is in support of mandatory paid sick leave for companies with more than, IIRC, 15 employees* whereas the previous bill had specified 5.

*Will cover quite a lot of restaurants, which is important for health reasons.

 

[KitKatMatt]

You know what someone is going to say in response of that right?

"You should better yourself to get a better job that allows vacation days."

I agree with you though, because I know a lot of people who have plenty of certificates and qualifications for great jobs, but there are no jobs, because the great jobs they did have were outsourced overseas and they were laid off.

I know for sure that "someone" in particular will

One of the people who came to work at the company that kept me in temp was very vocal about a clothing manufacturer who closed a factory in Louisiana to move to China, which basically made the entire town unemployed.

I went to college for a very active field... which I am unable to get into because entry-level jobs no longer exist. I also completed courses for training in another area, medical transcription, but doctors offices no longer hire people to do this. It's all based in huge corporations dotted thinly among the whole USA or in foreign countries.

So now I work minimum wage, and might be stuck here forever blah. Life is cruel.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I know for sure that "someone" in particular will

One of the people who came to work at the company that kept me in temp was very vocal about a clothing manufacturer who closed a factory in Louisiana to move to China, which basically made the entire town unemployed.

I went to college for a very active field... which I am unable to get into because entry-level jobs no longer exist. I also completed courses for training in another area, medical transcription, but doctors offices no longer hire people to do this. It's all based in huge corporations dotted thinly among the whole USA or in foreign countries.

So now I work minimum wage, and might be stuck here forever blah. Life is cruel.

Honest question how can entry level positions no longer exist? Instead of just moving up to where now entry level is what used to be the second level, for example.

 

[dogs4thewin]

At least when it comes to sick time, that is slowly changing. More cities are starting to institute mandatory paid sick leave. Philadelphia is probably going to do it soon - a previous bill that had easily passed the city council was vetoed by the mayor, but there's apparently been some recent agreement and the mayor has stated he is in support of mandatory paid sick leave for companies with more than, IIRC, 15 employees* whereas the previous bill had specified 5.

*Will cover quite a lot of restaurants, which is important for health reasons.

I would support say a week of that IF it worked like the FMLA. That is to say, that you would have to wait say a year for it to apply to you.

 

[TheQuietRiot]

Most full time jobs in the UK offer 21 paid holidays per year as standard. I get 28 days holiday in my contract, and got paid for the 6 days I had off earlier on in the year due to illness.

Strange to hear that employees from the richest country in the world don't even get vacation days?

 

[KitKatMatt]

Honest question how can entry level positions no longer exist? Instead of just moving up to where now entry level is what used to be the second level, for example.

I don't understand the second part of your question? Can you word it differently?

No entry level positions exist here. Everyone requires a minimum of five years experience in their want ads. I've applied for those as well and of course never get calls back.

When I started college for this, I had seen a few ads for entry level work. They had all dried up by the time I graduated.

This is a huge field here because of our massive construction and refinery focus, but I have found it impossible to get my foot in the door.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Most full time jobs in the UK offer 21 paid holidays per year as standard. I get 28 days holiday in my contract, and got paid for the 6 days I had off earlier on in the year due to illness.

Strange to hear that employees from the richest country in the world don't even get vacation days?

We're the richest country in the world because we don't. It isn't being wasted on vacation days. Wanna rest? You can rest when you're dead.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Most full time jobs in the UK offer 21 paid holidays per year as standard. I get 28 days holiday in my contract, and got paid for the 6 days I had off earlier on in the year due to illness.

Strange to hear that employees from the richest country in the world don't even get vacation days?

It depends that is a benefit that many employers choose to offer, but is NOT required to do. Many will offer it, however, since people look for that stuff to attract the best employees.

It is common to see an employee start out with little or not paid vacation time and as he or she works for the company longer get more weeks per year up to sometimes 3-6 weeks.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

I don't understand the second part of your question? Can you word it differently?

No entry level positions exist here. Everyone requires a minimum of five years experience in their want ads. I've applied for those as well and of course never get calls back.

When I started college for this, I had seen a few ads for entry level work. They had all dried up by the time I graduated.

This is a huge field here because of our massive construction and refinery focus, but I have found it impossible to get my foot in the door.

five years? that is ridiculous. I don't even think that is possible with interning.. unless you've been in school forever.

 

[keith99]

Her job was protected until she was able to return to the level of duties her job required, but she was asking for light duty until that time it appears.

This will come down to one main criteria I believe; what is a reasonable accommodation the business could make, without placing undue burden on the business.

Seems to me that UPS has a very bad situation. First the worker in question already was almost exclusively doing letters and light packages, second they had already given similar accommodations to others under the ADA. One assumes the others got those accommodations on a permanent basis. In any case UPS has established that such accommodations are possible and most likely reasonable.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I don't understand the second part of your question? Can you word it differently?

No entry level positions exist here. Everyone requires a minimum of five years experience in their want ads. I've applied for those as well and of course never get calls back.

When I started college for this, I had seen a few ads for entry level work. They had all dried up by the time I graduated.

This is a huge field here because of our massive construction and refinery focus, but I have found it impossible to get my foot in the door.

What I was trying to say is like if the tech advances were the REASON for no entry level positions maybe what used to be directly ABOVE entry level was the new entry level position?

 

[DaisyDay]

Should a pregnant worker be accommodated to a lesser extent than another worker temporarily disabled because of a sports injury acquired offsite?