Pregnancy Accommodations

[PreachersWife2004]

Supreme Court to hear pregnancy discrimination case | Fox News

So, I've had four kids, and I was working when I was pregnant with each of them. I took the minimum time offered (in one case I was not offered my job back since I was a temp) and I never asked for special consideration. When I was pregnant with my last little guy, and I needed to go on modified bed rest, I voluntarily left my job.

So I'm not big on the government setting MORE rules for maternity care, because I think that's gonna scare employers away from women even more.

What do y'all think?

 

[Cute Tink]

I think companies should consider offering light duty work for pregnant employees (as well as any other employees temporarily unable to perform full duties) if it is an option. I think it would encourage more employee loyalty long term to know that their employer is there to support them.

Should they be required to under the law? I'm a little iffy on that. I agree it would make them more leery of hiring women, but becoming pregnant is generally the result of choices that the woman makes (i.e. having sex, rape excluded of course) and is not a necessity.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Not every woman is so lucky to be able to be supported if she decides to leave her job because of a pregnancy. I think it's a good idea to have laws in place to protect a woman as she goes through pregnancy if she needs to be accommodated at work.

I think everyone should have support available for them in these cases, and in other cases of temporary disability (permanent too, but since we're talking pregnancy, this would be a temporary accommodation).

 

[Tallguy88]

I hope the SC sides in her favor. Women should not be fired for bringing life into this world.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

I hope the SC sides in her favor. Women should not be fired for bringing life into this world.

She wasn't fired.

She had to take unpaid leave, because she had used up the majority of her medical leave when she had her fertility treatments.

She has a job waiting for her when she comes back.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Not every woman is so lucky to be able to be supported if she decides to leave her job because of a pregnancy. I think it's a good idea to have laws in place to protect a woman as she goes through pregnancy if she needs to be accommodated at work.

I think everyone should have support available for them in these cases, and in other cases of temporary disability (permanent too, but since we're talking pregnancy, this would be a temporary accommodation).

Bear in mind there ARE laws in place to protect pregnancy, but when reasonable accommodations CANNOT be made, what happens then?

In this case, she wanted a lighter workload but there wasn't a job available that entailed a lighter workload.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Unless they are violating policy concerning employees they can fire whoever they want whenever they want. If they have nothing outlined in their policies over pregnancies, why would a woman who, maybe wants to get pregnant, get the job to begin with? If they pretty much have a policy that allows them to fire you for not being able to perform your duties because of being pregnant, you put yourself at risk for in becoming pregnant. The company shouldn't have to pay for your personal choices. If you want to get pregnant and the company's policies give you the risk, find a new job then.

 

[JayFern]

How do European countries handle this problem? or are Americans too proud to look to someone else for answers?
If something works elsewhere why not copy it, businesses do it all the time.

 

[JayFern]

Supreme Court to hear pregnancy discrimination case | Fox News

So, I've had four kids, and I was working when I was pregnant with each of them. I took the minimum time offered (in one case I was not offered my job back since I was a temp) and I never asked for special consideration. When I was pregnant with my last little guy, and I needed to go on modified bed rest, I voluntarily left my job.

So I'm not big on the government setting MORE rules for maternity care, because I think that's gonna scare employers away from women even more.

What do y'all think?

Do you think because you perhaps suffered everyone else should suffer? don't most parents try to make life easier for their kids than they had it themselves? within reason of course.

 

[KitKatMatt]

Unless they are violating policy concerning employees they can fire whoever they want whenever they want. If they have nothing outlined in their policies over pregnancies, why would a woman who, maybe wants to get pregnant, get the job to begin with? If they pretty much have a policy that allows them to fire you for not being able to perform your duties because of being pregnant, you put yourself at risk for in becoming pregnant. The company shouldn't have to pay for your personal choices. If you want to get pregnant and the company's policies give you the risk, find a new job then.

"Find a new job" is 1000 times easier said than done.

A great many people go after any job they can get, regardless of whether they agree with company policy or not.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

"Find a new job" is 1000 times easier said than done.

A great many people go after any job they can get, regardless of whether they agree with company policy or not.

If I was a business owner I would offer lighter duties and 3 weeks free vacation for child birth. I would get out from behind my desk to fill in the manual labor to not put the child at risk. I believe from inception to birth that is a whole person the entire time and their birth and comfort is far more important than my profit. It is a simple Christian principle that people take priority over money.

but the government should not force people or businesses to be compassionate. If they have to, then our country is doomed to fail to begin with.

You signed a contract, if you fail to meet your end of the deal they have the right to fire you. Unless they called you to join, then you should have negotiated that into your contract.

 

[KitKatMatt]

I think you mean "conception" up there?

I never got to "negotiate" any contract when getting a job. I was allowed to either take it or leave. People who ask questions get fired, and after spending more than an entire year trying to get a job, I was not going to risk it.

The fact that I had to think like that is terrible, and is a reflection of the state of business in the USA.

And like many things in this country, there will be no voluntary change by businesses. Laws are needed to protect employees.

 

[bhsmte]

Her job was protected until she was able to return to the level of duties her job required, but she was asking for light duty until that time it appears.

This will come down to one main criteria I believe; what is a reasonable accommodation the business could make, without placing undue burden on the business.

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

I think you mean "conception" up there?

I never got to "negotiate" any contract when getting a job. I was allowed to either take it or leave. People who ask questions get fired, and after spending more than an entire year trying to get a job, I was not going to risk it.

The fact that I had to think like that is terrible, and is a reflection of the state of business in the USA.

And like many things in this country, there will be no voluntary change by businesses. Laws are needed to protect employees.

yeah thats what I meant.. I literally watched that movie 2 days ago and I can't get the word out of my head.

My dad was a part of a union for 28 years. I am all for employee rights. It is a sad state for our country that women who want a family put themselves at risk. I wrote my argument in a devil's advocate perspective.

Are the government bullies for enforcing businesses to have living standards for their employees, or are the businesses just too greedy to ignore them for profit?

 

[MachZer0]

Supreme Court to hear pregnancy discrimination case | Fox News

So, I've had four kids, and I was working when I was pregnant with each of them. I took the minimum time offered (in one case I was not offered my job back since I was a temp) and I never asked for special consideration. When I was pregnant with my last little guy, and I needed to go on modified bed rest, I voluntarily left my job.

So I'm not big on the government setting MORE rules for maternity care, because I think that's gonna scare employers away from women even more.

What do y'all think?

Hopefully, she'll lose. If a woman gets pregnant, it is not the employer's fault and the employer should not be forced to suffer a loss because of it

 

[ChristsSoldier115]

Hopefully, she'll lose. If a woman gets pregnant, it is not the employer's fault and the employer should not be forced to suffer a loss because of it

What does the employer lose?

 

[KitKatMatt]

yeah thats what I meant.. I literally watched that movie 2 days ago and I can't get the word out of my head.

My dad was a part of a union for 28 years. I am all for employee rights. It is a sad state for our country that women who want a family put themselves at risk. I wrote my argument in a devil's advocate perspective.

Are the government bullies for enforcing businesses to have living standards for their employees, or are the businesses just too greedy to ignore them for profit?

There was a meme that got popular after the movie came out, playing on the sentence "A dream inside a dream: Inception".

One was "A person inside a person: Conception"

Personally, I think businesses are just too greedy, and without regulation they are free to indulge all they want. That's not an in-depth answer, really, but it's what I think. There are some exceptions, for sure, but it's not the norm.

 

[MachZer0]

What does the employer lose?

He has to not only pay her wages but he has to pay somebody to do the job she's no longer doing

 

[Tallguy88]

Hopefully, she'll lose. If a woman gets pregnant, it is not the employer's fault and the employer should not be forced to suffer a loss because of it

Sorry, an employer cannot discriminate on the basis of pregnancy.

 

[MachZer0]

Sorry, an employer cannot discriminate on the basis of pregnancy.

They can if she cannot do the job which is what the Supreme Court case will be about