I'll have to look into this further, but I still say that v. 11 starts a separate vision. Just because the saints wear fine linen doesn't make these two visions at the same time.
Also, I can't see how Armageddon is the marriage supper. Just doesn't make any sense to me. A marriage supper is a joyful and peaceful event, not a blood bath.
Verse 11 is not a new vision per se, its all about the Church/Bride in Heaven. Its not a part of the Chronological Order of the BoR pr se, it covers the full 7 years. We Marry the Lamb, then return with Jesus to Armageddon to see the Beast defeated.
It will be joyful, darkness is defeated my brother, what better Marriage gift could we receive ? You are looking at the carnage, I am not, Jesus defeats them with a SPOKEN WORD just like the Creation, this is why Daniel says over and over that this Little Horn in Dan. 8 and the Statue in Dan. 2 will be defeated WITHOUT HAND (by the Holy Spirit). This is what is meant by Jesus having the Sword of the Spirit, he speaks the victory. The blood, the flesh being eaten is prose meant to tell us it is the Armageddon War.
The whole reason God tells us things in code is so we will know whilst the world doesn't know. Thus the FINE LINEN is the Righteousness of the Saints was to point us towards who the armies were with Jesus Christ, and to tell us the Church had been Married and thus received her new Glorious Bodies, thus we are now IMMORTAL !! We do not go to Heaven with these flesh bodies of Sin, we die at the Rapture and only the Spirit man is Raptured. LIKE THE DEAD IN Christ, who have no bodies and are raised, we DIE in an instant/twinkling of an eye then we are taken to Heaven to be with the Lord, receive out Glorious bodies, then return with Christ. Jess taking the reigns of earth back over will be joyus my brother !!
Are you suggesting the saints will eat the flesh of those people and their horses? I can't see such cannibalism or vengeance as a marriage supper.
Like I stated above, it's a Metaphor to show us what is going on. In Matt. 24:28 Jesus tells the Disciples/Jews what to look for as per his coming, he says the eagles will be where the Carcass is at. This is meant to tell them that he will not be in the Desert, or in the Secret Chambers, but will come from the eastern skies instead, and he will be at Armageddon. The fowls/eagles are always where the Carcass is at, and thus Jesus is telling them, I will be at Armageddon.
It seems to me that you are taking highly symbolic (apocalyptic) text and making it literal, much like people try to make something literal out of parables. Except I see that some things you conveniently interpret symbolically. It makes me think of your whole scheme as suspect.
Of course its literal, God doesn't waste time writing prose brother. It's all ENCODED, but if you understand the code, you then get the literal message. Japan and Germany encoded their messages in WW2, once we cracked the code, of course they were LITERAL MESSAGES.
The Symbolic things also have a literal meaning. God used codes/symbolism, and thus we are to understand it while he world doesn't understand it, of course not everyone is called to prophecy.
I question everything eschatological, so I'm just asking questions.
That's the only way to learn, seek out the truths.
The saints are always in white linen, this doesn't make v. 8 and 14 the same time frame.
Technically you would be right, it could be different, but it is not.... we get our White Robes via going to Heaven, it is our new Glorious Bodies, then we return with Jesus to fight the Beast and his Armies that are
STILL ON EARTH. This whole vision/picture is about the Bride in the Marriage Chambers and then her Marriage Supper. That is why it's shown in such fashion. The Marriage and the Marriage Supper. It's a
Continuous 7 day event of a traditional Jewish Wedding, hence we are shown what happens over the
7 YEAR PERIOD of the Bride in Heaven, who then goes forth to the Marriage Supper.
There is a lot in the scripture that is not chronological. But it doesn't give anyone justification to make up their own chronology of it.
I don't make up stuff, I have been a preacher 30 years and was called unto Prophecy brother. I love what do, but I am no fool brother, I don't make up stuff and say it's of God, I agree many do. I am telling you how the BoR goes, whether you can grasp that or not has no bearing on what I understand, its not even that hard to understand that Rev. 12, 13, 17 and 18 all start at the First Seal. Rev. 12 and 13 have 1260 days as a CENTRAL THEME, the Woman (Israel) is chased in the Wilderness for 1260 days and we know THE BEAST of Rev. 13 rules for 1260 days.
Since Rev. 17 is the Kings who come TO POWER with the Beast ONE HOUR (42 Months) then we know they must kill her (Harlot/False Religion) off after the come to power which lasts 42 months. As per Rev. 18, Babylon or the World getting Judged happens over a 3.5 year timeframe in which God's Wrath is poured out on Mankind. I have had a thread/blog on other sites, up on Babbylon for a long time.
Babylon, The Harlot and the Seven Headed Beast Explained
There are so many various constructs of Rev. and eschatology, I take everything I read on it with a grain of salt.
TD
That's a good thing, always tests the spirits. But since I understand it, and I do, id you look for 10 years, then figure out, hey, that guy was correct, you be wasting time bro.....LOL.
But on the real side, never believe men, that is what I do, some men we can trust more than others if we have a relationship with them over time, but we are all fallible.
But what I told you is correct as per the timeline. So study it.
God Bless.
