Dad Ernie said:
Greetings Thereselittleflower,
Repeat to yourself in prayer, I worship you God (the Father), I worship you God (the Son), I worship you God (the Holy spirit). Whose attention do you think you are going to get? What does it mean by "vain repetitions"?
Whose attention do I think I would get?? I would get their attention!
Are you calling this vain repetition?
You STILL have not supplied any supporting verses. Why don't you just listen to Jesus and do what He tells you to do? WWJD?
Blessings,
Dad Ernie
I do do what He tells me to do
. .where does it say we are
not to pray to Jesus?
And yes, I think I have . .He, Jesus, is called
Almighty God and
Everlasting Father . .
Ok . . let's start with scriptural references of the kind you are looking for:
Joh 14:13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
Joh 14:14
If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Note, Jesus says HE will do it, not that His Father will do it . .
Jam 1:1
James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.
Jam 1:2 My brethren, count it all joy when ye fall into divers temptations;
Jam 1:3 Knowing this, that the trying of your faith worketh patience.
Jam 1:4 But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.
Jam 1:5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
Jam 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
Jam 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
Note that James does not distinguish between God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit . . and what he says in verse 7 specifically refers to the Lord . .
Paul in 1 Corinthians says this:
1Co 1:2
Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are sanctified in Christ Jesus, called to be saints, with all that in every place call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord, both theirs and ours:
Note that they call upon the name of Jesus . not on the Father IN the name of Jesus . . and that all in every place do this . .
And here Paul says this:
Eph 5:19
Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord;
Specifically mentioning the Lord, not God the Father . .
Here in Acts:
Act 8:22
Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.
No distinction is made between God the Father, the Son or the Holy Spirit . . and that Jesus was given the authority to forgive sins, it makes absolute sense that Jesus can be prayed to in this manner . .
Here in Revelation we have an example of someone praying to Jesus:
Rev 22:20
He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus. [/quote]
And here is another example:
2Co 12:7 And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure.
2Co 12:8 For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me.
2Co 12:9 And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.
And another example:
Act 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.
Act 7:55 But he, being full of the Holy Ghost, looked up stedfastly into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God,
Act 7:56 And said, Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of man standing on the right hand of God.
Act 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord,
Act 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.
Act 7:59 And they stoned Stephen, calling upon God, and saying, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
Act 7:60 And he kneeled down, and cried with a loud voice, Lord, lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
Here we see that Stephen made two prayers to Jesus . .
Again, another example:
Act 8:24
Then answered Simon, and said, Pray ye to the Lord for me, that none of these things which ye have spoken come upon me
Here is another scritural reference speaking of praying to Jesus:
1Jo 5:11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.
1Jo 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.
1Jo 5:13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
1Jo 5:14 And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1Jo 5:15 And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him
And another:
Act 1:24
And they prayed, and said, Thou, Lord, which knowest the hearts of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen,
I think this should be more than enough scritural evidence for praying to Jesus . .
Some examples not only use His title of "Lord", but even include His name!
Now, what was that you were saying? Why not do what Jesus tells me to do?
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I look forward to you answering my question above . . .
Peace in Him!
