Praying for the Sick

[Presbyterian Continuist]

It has been very interesting seeing the responses on the prayer request forum to sick people asking for prayer for healing.

Most responders tend to ask God to do the healing. The problem is, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where anyone ministering healing asked God to heal a sick person. I see many places where sick people have asked for prayer but not the other way around.

When Elisha received the request from Naaman, he told the man to go wash in the river Jordan. He did not ask God to heal him. Elisha gave an instruction and Naaman was healed.

When Jesus healed folks, He never asked God to heal them. He issued instructions like, "take up your bed", "go show yourself to the priest", "wash yourself in that pool". The woman with the issue of blood did not ask God for healing. She touched the hem of Jesus' garment and was healed. When Peter healed the lame man in Acts 3, he did not ask God to heal him, he said, "In the name of Jesus, rise up and walk."

Somewhere along the line, the church has got it into its head that people need to beg and plead with God to heal sick people. I don't know where they got that from but they never got it from the Bible. I know the scriptures about asking God and making our requests to Him, but these were never in the context of divine healing.

Also, there is clear teaching in the Bible that God provided physical healing as part of the Atonement. Matthew quotes Isaiah in the context of Jesus healing sick people by saying "He took our sicknesses and diseases". So, if God has already provided healing, then when people ask for what God has already provided, don't they make Him out to be a liar? And if so, then does it surprise anyone that people don't get healed in response to prayers of that nature?

What about the prayer, "Heal this sick person if it be thy will"? One man came to Jesus and said, "you can heal me if it is your will." Jesus replied, "It certainly is, be healed" and the man was healed. This shows quite conclusively that it is God's will to heal sick people. If it wasn't God's will why did Jesus command His disciples to heal the sick?

So if we are praying for someone with cancer and we say heal him if it is your will, what is the alternative? If it is not God's will to heal the man, is it them God's will that he dies a slow, agonising death? Because you have to have either one or the other, so do you think that God's nature would support a person dying a slow and painful death?

I don't think so. Jesus showed great compassion toward sick people. I cannot imagine Jesus saying to someone coming for healing, "Sorry, it isn't My will to heal you today." Did Jesus ever say that?

What about the scripture in Mark 16? Does it say, "They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, only if it is God's will?" No, of course not.

So how are we going to pray for sick people and know that it will not be a hit and miss thing - mainly a miss?

What we need to do is to accept that we are representatives of Jesus and can do the works that He did in the way that He went about it. There is no actual formula for healing, but there are principles, and asking God for what He has already provided is not one of them.

Actually if I ask God to heal someone, it won't happen because it would be a prayer of unbelief, not a prayer of faith. A prayer of faith acknowledges that God has provided healing and that we can require the healing to take place. We can command a spirit of infirmity to leave a person. We can say, "Jesus heals you." or "Be Healed". We don't even have to say the Name of Jesus, because a representatives we are automatically using the authority of His name just by pronouncing healing on a person.

Any believer can minister healing in this way. We don't have to depend on healing "ministries." A lot of them are more showmen than anything. They give a wrong impression of the healing ministry. There are no special gifts of healing that enables a guy to put on a white suit, get up on a stage and demonstrate that he is a great healing evangelist. There is no such person anywhere in the book of Acts. We don't need the wrong impression that ministering healing is limited to "healing ministries". We all can minister healing to the sick.

So let's get out there and do it!

 

[Alithis]

It has been very interesting seeing the responses on the prayer request forum to sick people asking for prayer for healing.

Most responders tend to ask God to do the healing. The problem is, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where anyone ministering healing asked God to heal a sick person. I see many places where sick people have asked for prayer but not the other way around.

When Elisha received the request from Naaman, he told the man to go wash in the river Jordan. He did not ask God to heal him. Elisha gave an instruction and Naaman was healed.

When Jesus healed folks, He never asked God to heal them. He issued instructions like, "take up your bed", "go show yourself to the priest", "wash yourself in that pool". The woman with the issue of blood did not ask God for healing. She touched the hem of Jesus' garment and was healed. When Peter healed the lame man in Acts 3, he did not ask God to heal him, he said, "In the name of Jesus, rise up and walk."

Somewhere along the line, the church has got it into its head that people need to beg and plead with God to heal sick people. I don't know where they got that from but they never got it from the Bible. I know the scriptures about asking God and making our requests to Him, but these were never in the context of divine healing.

Also, there is clear teaching in the Bible that God provided physical healing as part of the Atonement. Matthew quotes Isaiah in the context of Jesus healing sick people by saying "He took our sicknesses and diseases". So, if God has already provided healing, then when people ask for what God has already provided, don't they make Him out to be a liar? And if so, then does it surprise anyone that people don't get healed in response to prayers of that nature?

What about the prayer, "Heal this sick person if it be thy will"? One man came to Jesus and said, "you can heal me if it is your will." Jesus replied, "It certainly is, be healed" and the man was healed. This shows quite conclusively that it is God's will to heal sick people. If it wasn't God's will why did Jesus command His disciples to heal the sick?

So if we are praying for someone with cancer and we say heal him if it is your will, what is the alternative? If it is not God's will to heal the man, is it them God's will that he dies a slow, agonising death? Because you have to have either one or the other, so do you think that God's nature would support a person dying a slow and painful death?

I don't think so. Jesus showed great compassion toward sick people. I cannot imagine Jesus saying to someone coming for healing, "Sorry, it isn't My will to heal you today." Did Jesus ever say that?

What about the scripture in Mark 16? Does it say, "They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, only if it is God's will?" No, of course not.

So how are we going to pray for sick people and know that it will not be a hit and miss thing - mainly a miss?

What we need to do is to accept that we are representatives of Jesus and can do the works that He did in the way that He went about it. There is no actual formula for healing, but there are principles, and asking God for what He has already provided is not one of them.

Actually if I ask God to heal someone, it won't happen because it would be a prayer of unbelief, not a prayer of faith. A prayer of faith acknowledges that God has provided healing and that we can require the healing to take place. We can command a spirit of infirmity to leave a person. We can say, "Jesus heals you." or "Be Healed". We don't even have to say the Name of Jesus, because a representatives we are automatically using the authority of His name just by pronouncing healing on a person.

Any believer can minister healing in this way. We don't have to depend on healing "ministries." A lot of them are more showmen than anything. They give a wrong impression of the healing ministry. There are no special gifts of healing that enables a guy to put on a white suit, get up on a stage and demonstrate that he is a great healing evangelist. There is no such person anywhere in the book of Acts. We don't need the wrong impression that ministering healing is limited to "healing ministries". We all can minister healing to the sick.

So let's get out there and do it!

thank you for this post ..it adds !

i have begun to note a rising expectation that what god has said to do..is done ,because he said to do it .
not sure how to express it ..but any way your posy has only added
-again,thank you for sharing what God is giving you to share .



-only believe -

 

[Messy]

So let's get out there and do it!

They tell me that all the time, but they have a wife who looks after the kids or have grown kids or no kids and they still don't do it in our church. More and more people in Holland are doing it, the Facebook group gets bigger and bigger, every time you read: so many saved, so many healed from this or that. Just regular believers who were kickstarted to go do something.
https://www.thelastreformation.com/

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

They tell me that all the time, but they have a wife who looks after the kids or have grown kids or no kids and they still don't do it in our church. More and more people in Holland are doing it, the Facebook group gets bigger and bigger, every time you read: so many saved, so many healed from this or that. Just regular believers who were kickstarted to go do something.
https://www.thelastreformation.com/

They don't do it much in my church either and when they do they use "if it be your will", so I decided to ignore them and just do my own thing. So if I see a sick person in my church I take hold of their wrist and say "Jesus heals you!" Some look at me sideways but I have decided not to be ashamed of the way Jesus showed me how to minister to the sick. If I can do it, anyone can and your pastor doesn't have to agree. What can they do? Kick you out? Well then you can go on your way rejoicing, heaing the sick, casting out demons,raising the dead without an unbelieving pastor getting in your way!

 

[rdclmn72]

I can't vouch or endorse, I can only say that since healing isn't my thing, I can only relate to the gifts and my own calling.
Having said that, I do know that its up to God to teach one the way he wants things done in order to be effective.
So, I say drive on, heal as many as possible.

 

[Alithis]

“Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him” (James 5 :14, 15) .

-in this scenario (being one of so many) the sick ask for the elders (because i presume the elders should be folks who are well established in faith and live in the expectancy that God is faithful to his inspired word ...) the elder anoint you with oil and pray...
-AND -- GOD will raise you up .. so if you are sick and you ask the elders to pray and they anoint you with oil and then pray .
then you go home raised up.. your well .its done, because it says "and God will raise you up"

you did what your told to do.. they did what they are told to do and then God does what he has promised to do .
done deal .
we need to consider that "before we ask the elders to pray "
instead of "hoping ..that maybe perhaps god may or may not but might ..if we are lucky ..heal us .. -that is faithless tripe ... repent of it ..

ok thats my first little rant ..

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

W

I can't vouch or endorse, I can only say that since healing isn't my thing, I can only relate to the gifts and my own calling.
Having said that, I do know that its up to God to teach one the way he wants things done in order to be effective.
So, I say drive on, heal as many as possible.

I want to encourage you to see that because Jesus and all His fullness lives in you, you don't have to limit yourself, because there are no limits to what Jesus can do through you. He does the healing. All you have to do is to lay your hand in a sick person and say "Jesus heals you" and it happens. You don't pray for results. You pray in obedience to the scripture. You don't need to wait for a gift. You already have all the ability through the Christ who is in you. I am going to ask God to put sick people in your path so you have no option but to pray for them. What! Are you going to ignore a sick person and let them walk away sick because you will not let the Jesus in you heal them? You are the hands of Jesus to that person and when you lay hands on, it is the hand of Jesus, and His power will activate and you will see that person recover, it is not a matter of gifting, but of faith. If you really believe that Jesus heals then let Him do it through you!

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

“Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him” (James 5 :14, 15) .

-in this scenario (being one of so many) thre sick ask for the elders (because i presume the elders should be foks who are well established in faith and live in the expectancy that God is faithful to his inspired word ...) the elder anoint you with oil and pray...
-AND -- GOD wil raie you up .. so if you are sicj and you ask the elders to pray and they annoint you with oil and then pray .
then you go home raised up.. your well its done because it says "and God will raise you up"

you did what your told to do.. they did what they are told to do and then God does what he has promised to do .
done deal .
we need to consider that "before we ask the elders to pray "
instead of "hoping ..that maybe perhaps god may or may not but might ..if we are lucky ..heal us .. -that is faithless tripe ... repent of it ..

ok thats my first little rant ..

That's for churchgoing Christians. The real ministry happens on the street to the unconverted and that's the job for you and me. It takes faith and courage to do that but the blessings and rewards follow because God honours the faith that takes real risks for the gospel.

 

[Messy]

They don't do it much in my church either and when they do they use "if it be your will", so I decided to ignore them and just do my own thing. So if I see a sick person in my church I take hold of their wrist and say "Jesus heals you!" Some look at me sideways but I have decided not to be ashamed of the way Jesus showed me how to minister to the sick. If I can do it, anyone can and your pastor doesn't have to agree. What can they do? Kick you out? Well then you can go on your way rejoicing, heaing the sick, casting out demons,raising the dead without an unbelieving pastor getting in your way!

We pray in church and people get healed and saved, but those are people that are friends or people they meet, they just take with them to church. He wanted to go to the street, but still hasn't done it.
I just need someone to lead me. The disciples didn't just go out, Jesus discipled them.

 

[Alithis]

That's for churchgoing Christians. The real ministry happens on the street to the unconverted and that's the job for you and me. It takes faith and courage to do that but the blessings and rewards follow because God honours the faith that takes real risks for the gospel.

yeah for sure ..i was just ranting about the topic of healing generally because it perplexes me how much unbelief has flooded in.. and how are we as the church going to minister it to the lost if we cant even get it righyt in the church .. etc

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

We pray in church and people get healed and saved, but those are people that are friends or people they meet, they just take with them to church. He wanted to go to the street, but still hasn't done it.
I just need someone to lead me. The disciples didn't just go out, Jesus discipled them.

It's a pity that I don't live near you, otherwise I would say, "Let's go and do it!" I was sitting in the mall today waiting for my wife to come out of a shop and a lady in a wheelchair with a bandage on her arm came right past me. I didn't have the courage to approach her, but a little while afterward I saw her at a stall taking donations for the local guide dog association. I went up to her and gave a donation and then told her that I believed that Jesus could heal her arm and would she like me to pray for her. She said yes and I prayed for her. She appreciated that. You, see the Lord gave me the right opportunity and the courage to go and do it. If I can do it, so can you, because Jesus helps us.

By the way, when those disciples went out at the instruction of Jesus, they were still unconverted Jews under the Old Covenant and so they needed to have His delegated authority. But now, we are New Covenant believers, filled with the Holy Spirit, and we are now one with Christ, so that when we go out and heal people, it is as if Jesus is doing it, because He is in us doing the work. We are now His representatives and when we lay hands on sick people, it is His hand that is on them. Understand? Read the book of Ephesians. That will tell you who you are in Christ and where you stand with Him.

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

yeah for sure ..i was just ranting about the topic of healing generally because it perplexes me how much unbelief has flooded in.. and how are we as the church going to mister it to the lost if we cant even get it in the church .. etc

Well, stop caring about what the other unbelieving folks are doing in your church and get out there and do it yourself! Go to the Gospel Faith Messenger website and find out which Tuesdays they are having their equipping meetings. There's a guy called Doug Hodges who is running it, and he will be very pleased to give you some pointers. Tell him that Paul Christensen sent you. He'll probably say, Oh, that heretic! But just ignore him and tell him the next time I see him I'll be praying that he be saved!

 

[ByTheSpirit]

It has been very interesting seeing the responses on the prayer request forum to sick people asking for prayer for healing.

Most responders tend to ask God to do the healing. The problem is, I don't see anywhere in the Bible where anyone ministering healing asked God to heal a sick person. I see many places where sick people have asked for prayer but not the other way around.

When Elisha received the request from Naaman, he told the man to go wash in the river Jordan. He did not ask God to heal him. Elisha gave an instruction and Naaman was healed.

When Jesus healed folks, He never asked God to heal them. He issued instructions like, "take up your bed", "go show yourself to the priest", "wash yourself in that pool". The woman with the issue of blood did not ask God for healing. She touched the hem of Jesus' garment and was healed. When Peter healed the lame man in Acts 3, he did not ask God to heal him, he said, "In the name of Jesus, rise up and walk."

Somewhere along the line, the church has got it into its head that people need to beg and plead with God to heal sick people. I don't know where they got that from but they never got it from the Bible. I know the scriptures about asking God and making our requests to Him, but these were never in the context of divine healing.

Also, there is clear teaching in the Bible that God provided physical healing as part of the Atonement. Matthew quotes Isaiah in the context of Jesus healing sick people by saying "He took our sicknesses and diseases". So, if God has already provided healing, then when people ask for what God has already provided, don't they make Him out to be a liar? And if so, then does it surprise anyone that people don't get healed in response to prayers of that nature?

What about the prayer, "Heal this sick person if it be thy will"? One man came to Jesus and said, "you can heal me if it is your will." Jesus replied, "It certainly is, be healed" and the man was healed. This shows quite conclusively that it is God's will to heal sick people. If it wasn't God's will why did Jesus command His disciples to heal the sick?

So if we are praying for someone with cancer and we say heal him if it is your will, what is the alternative? If it is not God's will to heal the man, is it them God's will that he dies a slow, agonising death? Because you have to have either one or the other, so do you think that God's nature would support a person dying a slow and painful death?

I don't think so. Jesus showed great compassion toward sick people. I cannot imagine Jesus saying to someone coming for healing, "Sorry, it isn't My will to heal you today." Did Jesus ever say that?

What about the scripture in Mark 16? Does it say, "They shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover, only if it is God's will?" No, of course not.

So how are we going to pray for sick people and know that it will not be a hit and miss thing - mainly a miss?

What we need to do is to accept that we are representatives of Jesus and can do the works that He did in the way that He went about it. There is no actual formula for healing, but there are principles, and asking God for what He has already provided is not one of them.

Actually if I ask God to heal someone, it won't happen because it would be a prayer of unbelief, not a prayer of faith. A prayer of faith acknowledges that God has provided healing and that we can require the healing to take place. We can command a spirit of infirmity to leave a person. We can say, "Jesus heals you." or "Be Healed". We don't even have to say the Name of Jesus, because a representatives we are automatically using the authority of His name just by pronouncing healing on a person.

Any believer can minister healing in this way. We don't have to depend on healing "ministries." A lot of them are more showmen than anything. They give a wrong impression of the healing ministry. There are no special gifts of healing that enables a guy to put on a white suit, get up on a stage and demonstrate that he is a great healing evangelist. There is no such person anywhere in the book of Acts. We don't need the wrong impression that ministering healing is limited to "healing ministries". We all can minister healing to the sick.

So let's get out there and do it!

This is very good!

One night while at work late, I prayed for my wife over the phone. Her neck was swollen and stiff, she couldn't turn it, and all I said was "In the name of Jesus you are healed." and instantly she started laughing because the swelling went down immediately. She still have some stiffness, so we did our bible study, then we prayed again, and again I said, "In the name of Jesus you are healed." and the stiffness left and she had no more issues. Quite possibly the most remarkable demonstration of healing I have ever been a part of.

I love bragging on God!

He told me one day while at Assemblies of God ministry school, or rather asked me... "Why do you pray such long and elaborate healing prayers? Is it your prayer that heals or my power in you?"

I just kind of sat there and listened, knowing what the answer should be.

I then sensed him telling me, "all I require of you is to command healing."

Then I recalled that in the NT, Jesus never ever prayed for healing for someone, and the Apostles never did either. They simply commanded the opposite of what was to be....

When a dead person required healing, they said Get up!
When a lame person required walking they said Rise and walk!

That type of thing. This OP of yours Oscarr really hit that home. Thank you!

 

[Alithis]

Well, stop caring about what the other unbelieving folks are doing in your church and get out there and do it yourself! Go to the Gospel Faith Messenger website and find out which Tuesdays they are having their equipping meetings. There's a guy called Doug Hodges who is running it, and he will be very pleased to give you some pointers. Tell him that Paul Christensen sent you. He'll probably say, Oh, that heretic! But just ignore him and tell him the next time I see him I'll be praying that he be saved!

browsing the site

 

[Presbyterian Continuist]

This is very good!

One night while at work late, I prayed for my wife over the phone. Her neck was swollen and stiff, she couldn't turn it, and all I said was "In the name of Jesus you are healed." and instantly she started laughing because the swelling went down immediately. She still have some stiffness, so we did our bible study, then we prayed again, and again I said, "In the name of Jesus you are healed." and the stiffness left and she had no more issues. Quite possibly the most remarkable demonstration of healing I have ever been a part of.

I love bragging on God!

He told me one day while at Assemblies of God ministry school, or rather asked me... "Why do you pray such long and elaborate healing prayers? Is it your prayer that heals or my power in you?"

I just kind of sat there and listened, knowing what the answer should be.

I then sensed him telling me, "all I require of you is to command healing."

Then I recalled that in the NT, Jesus never ever prayed for healing for someone, and the Apostles never did either. They simply commanded the opposite of what was to be....

When a dead person required healing, they said Get up!
When a lame person required walking they said Rise and walk!

That type of thing. This OP of yours Oscarr really hit that home. Thank you!

I'm inspired by your testimony!

 

[AbbaLove]

“Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: and the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him” (James 5 :14, 15) .

​

It's important that the person in need of healing has the Faith to Believe as well as the elders of the church. That's one reason why James says it's the responsibility of the sick to first call for the elders, not for the elders to first go, pray, and anoint the sick with oil. The intention of healing the sick then and there by the Elders may be premature if the sick person doesn't have the faith to believe for their own healing. On the other hand it is always good to encourage and strengthen a sick person's nominal faith for a subsequent healing when the elders are all in agreement of like mind.

Matthew 18:19-20
19"Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.
20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."

John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

Mark 6:5-6
4 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home."
5 He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.
6 He was amazed at their lack of faith.

Some sick people are actually indifferent or don't really have enough faith to believe they can be healed. Some are eagerly waiting to depart from this world to their Heavenly Home and don't want to be healed. Then there are others that say, "If it's God's Will" as if it's entirely up to God and not dependant on their own Faith. So it requires Discernment and Words of Knowledge on the part of the church elders.

We know from the Word that it is God's Will to heal the sick. Everyone that came to Jesus was healed, not most not some, but everyone that came with expectant Faith. Even the woman with the issue of blood that touched the fringe of Jesus' garment.

Luke 8:44-48
44 She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment, and immediately her discharge of blood ceased.
45 And Jesus said, “Who was it that touched me?” When all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the crowds surround you and are pressing in on you!”
46 But Jesus said, “Someone touched me, for I perceive that power has gone out from me.”
47 And when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling, and falling down before him declared in the presence of all the people why she had touched him, and how she had been immediately healed.
48 And he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace.”

Romas 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Luke 18:8
... However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God​

 

[Alithis]

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It's important that the person in need of healing has the Faith to Believe as well as the elders of the church. That's one reason why James says it's the responsibility of the sick to first call for the elders, not for the elders to first go, pray, and anoint the sick with oil. The intention of healing the sick then and there by the Elders may be premature if the sick person doesn't have the faith to believe for their own healing. On the other hand it is always good to encourage and strengthen a sick person's nominal faith for a subsequent healing when the elders are all in agreement of like mind.

Matthew 18:19-20
19"Again I say to you, that if two of you agree on earth about anything that they may ask, it shall be done for them by My Father who is in heaven.
20 "For where two or three have gathered together in My name, I am there in their midst."

John 14:12
Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.

Mark 6:5-6
4 Jesus said to them, "A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home."
5 He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them.
6 He was amazed at their lack of faith.

Some sick people are actually indifferent or don't really have enough faith to believe they can be healed. Some are eagerly waiting to depart from this world to their Heavenly Home and don't want to be healed. Then there are others that say, "If it's God's Will" as if it's entirely up to God and not dependant on their own Faith. So it requires Discernment and Words of Knowledge on the part of the church elders.

We know from the Word that it is God's Will to heal the sick. Everyone that came to Jesus was healed, not most not some, but everyone that came with expectant Faith. Even the woman with the issue of blood that touched the fringe of Jesus' garment.

Luke 8:44-48
44 She came up behind him and touched the fringe of his garment, and immediately her discharge of blood ceased.
45 And Jesus said, “Who was it that touched me?” When all denied it, Peter said, “Master, the crowds surround you and are pressing in on you!”
46 But Jesus said, “Someone touched me, for I perceive that power has gone out from me.”
47 And when the woman saw that she was not hidden, she came trembling, and falling down before him declared in the presence of all the people why she had touched him, and how she had been immediately healed.
48 And he said to her, “Daughter, your faith has made you well; go in peace.”

Romas 10:17
So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Luke 18:8
... However, when the Son of Man comes, will he find faith on the earth?"

Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God​

i think praying for the sick is all about "love" ..i mean they are sick . and people who are sick are suffering ...im considering that "hearing news "that they are sick should be enough of a prompt to go pray for them because we love them and do not desire they continue to suffer.
And the point in the verse from james is .. "and GOD will raise them up .. " .. not might , not may do , not ..if it be thy will .. but .. "Will raise them up " ..
for me , thats the part to grasp hold of and stand on

 

[ToBeBlessed]

They don't do it much in my church either and when they do they use "if it be your will", so I decided to ignore them and just do my own thing. So if I see a sick person in my church I take hold of their wrist and say "Jesus heals you!" Some look at me sideways but I have decided not to be ashamed of the way Jesus showed me how to minister to the sick. If I can do it, anyone can and your pastor doesn't have to agree. What can they do? Kick you out? Well then you can go on your way rejoicing, heaing the sick, casting out demons,raising the dead without an unbelieving pastor getting in your way!

Oscar,

I must tell you that I have so enjoyed reading all of your posts over the last two or so weeks.

You are a breath of fresh air around here! I love your advice and wit, and occasionally I embarrass myself in public when i start laughing after reading what you have written because it is worded so well and is so free in Christ in it's wonderfulness.

I am seeing things much more like the way you see things lately and it is refreshing. The Holy Spirit is touching my heart in a wonderful way and giving me a feeling of 'Just go out and do it!' like what you are doing.

It is wonderful, isn't it.

To actually do! To do much less talkin' and so much more doin'. It is freeing in the most marvelous way, I wish I had started sooner! Amen brother. Keep being you and doing the Lord's work. And don't leave this Spirit-Filled forum. You MUST stay.

 

[AbbaLove]

"Most of my Bible study is spent in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. Why? Because I want to know how Jesus did things, and what He taught His disciples to do. One day when asking the Lord why so many people were not being healed these days, the Holy Spirit impressed very strongly on me, I didn’t tell My disciples to pray for the sick. I told them HEAL the sick.​

HEAL THE SICK | Life Healing Ministries​

In Spirit-filled congregations the Holy Spirit has deposited the nine supernatural Gifts among the Church members to be manifested to the Praise and Glory of the LORD God. I've been listening to Andrew Wommack's latest series on Prayer and it's proper understanding and application.

Mark 11:23-24
23 For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Luke 17:6
He replied, "If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, 'Be uprooted and planted in the sea,' and it will obey you.

I don't get the impression that Jesus said we first have to pray for Faith, although He didn't say we shouldn't. We certainly need to pray for guidance as to being more attentive to the instruction and leading of the Holy Spirit.

 

[ByTheSpirit]

BUMP! This is an important teaching!