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Prayer in School

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I got an email forwarded (like everyone else gets) from a concerned relative about some petition about prayer in school.

Here was my response:

[Another point to consider:

Suppose somehow there really was some kind of law passed that put prayer back into school. What then? Who is going to administer the prayer? I can assure you that while we'd all like Pastor Bob or Sister Susie to do this, there will be a waiting line of folks that will demand their right to pray. Since the constitution says that the gov't cannot mandate a specific religion then any and all religions will have to represented. While we are comfortable with Protestants, are we as comfortable with Catholics? Then what about Jews? Then what about Unitarians? Are you prepared to have a Muslim publicly pray in your school? What about Mormons, or even Wiccans? Where is the line drawn and who makes that line? Do you think the public school, having opened "prayer", will really be able to deny any religion its opportunity to participate? The litigation issues alone would be a nightmare.

Pray with your children at home. Teach your children to pray anytime-for prayer is something someone cannot prevent, since it does not have to be verbal, but can be spoken in and from the heart to God. Creating quasi-generic prayers for school use would send the wrong message to our children. And trying to leverage power to force the gov't to do this isn't much of a plan either--people's lives and hearts are changed through a relationship of obedient love to Jesus Christ, not by creating laws and rules to follow. This only builds a society called "Christendom". To quote former US Senate chaplain Richard Halverson: "Much misnamed Christianity is merely man domesticated by Christian tradition." History has shown time and again that is approach is not the Kingdom of God Christ spoke about.

Anyhow, there's my $0.02.

Respectfully, I cannot participate in this petition.]


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As Dr Dino puts it...
"'Should we have prayer in public schools?' Better to ask, 'Should we have public schools?'" :p

Why spend all that time arguing about the wrong question? hmmm I don't pretend to be a constitutional scholar, but I've been told that the U.S. isn't allowed to have a national public school system.
 
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As Dr Dino puts it...
"'Should we have prayer in public schools?' Better to ask, 'Should we have public schools?'" :p

Why spend all that time arguing about the wrong question? hmmm I don't pretend to be a constitutional scholar, but I've been told that the U.S. isn't allowed to have a national public school system.

"Dr Dino"?? Would that Dino Pedrone?
 
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Sorry. Kent Hovind, creationist, speaker, etc.
www.drdino.com

He has some good points, but we don't agree with all that he's into as far as conspiricy theories, governement, etc. I'm not scientist enough to know if all of that side is accurate, either. But he's funny, and loves the Lord, and has won a lot of people over to YEC.
 
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What conspiracy theory? I don't even see anything on the site about it. :)
Oh, good!
I actually haven't been to the site in a while. He had a big thing with Y2K, and the New World Order, etc. Also doesn't believe you have to get building permits or drivers' lisence (AH, can't spell that!), because our rights are from God, not the governemnt, blah, blah, blah. But anyway...
 
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Is it just me, or does the anabaptist forum have a really high percentage of hijacked threads?

Not that I'm complaining; that's just the way conversation flows.

It is a small group in here, so the number of conversations are limited, but I feel like I'm getting to know you all and settle in. Really hope you don't mind me adopting this corner as my place to belong. :wave:
 
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I got an email forwarded (like everyone else gets) from a concerned relative about some petition about prayer in school.

Here was my response:

[Another point to consider:

Suppose somehow there really was some kind of law passed that put prayer back into school. What then? Who is going to administer the prayer? I can assure you that while we'd all like Pastor Bob or Sister Susie to do this, there will be a waiting line of folks that will demand their right to pray. Since the constitution says that the gov't cannot mandate a specific religion then any and all religions will have to represented. While we are comfortable with Protestants, are we as comfortable with Catholics? Then what about Jews? Then what about Unitarians? Are you prepared to have a Muslim publicly pray in your school? What about Mormons, or even Wiccans? Where is the line drawn and who makes that line? Do you think the public school, having opened "prayer", will really be able to deny any religion its opportunity to participate? The litigation issues alone would be a nightmare.

Pray with your children at home. Teach your children to pray anytime-for prayer is something someone cannot prevent, since it does not have to be verbal, but can be spoken in and from the heart to God. Creating quasi-generic prayers for school use would send the wrong message to our children. And trying to leverage power to force the gov't to do this isn't much of a plan either--people's lives and hearts are changed through a relationship of obedient love to Jesus Christ, not by creating laws and rules to follow. This only builds a society called "Christendom". To quote former US Senate chaplain Richard Halverson: "Much misnamed Christianity is merely man domesticated by Christian tradition." History has shown time and again that is approach is not the Kingdom of God Christ spoke about.

Anyhow, there's my $0.02.

Respectfully, I cannot participate in this petition.]


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Nice to see someone else realized this would happen if prayer were actually reinstated in public schools. I have a good friend who is a middle school teacher, and he is actually a neo-pagan Druid. I don't know about you, but I'd rather that my children, if I ever had any, didn't begin the day with a prayer to the Dagda and Lugh of the long arm.

Peace,

Windlord.
 
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Nice to see someone else realized this would happen if prayer were actually reinstated in public schools. I have a good friend who is a middle school teacher, and he is actually a neo-pagan Druid. I don't know about you, but I'd rather that my children, if I ever had any, didn't begin the day with a prayer to the Dagda and Lugh of the long arm.

Peace,

Windlord.

:scratch:neo-pagan druid...bet he's fun at parties^_^
 
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