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...right now, yeah. But what if wicca was the main religion? For example when Christianity was a persecuted minority we were percieved as pretty harmless, but when we tried to rule countries, not so much. Do you really believe Wicca would wield world wrath well?Wicca is far less harmful to its practitioners and society than Christianity
We didn't either. Until we were in charge. Then it's about power not the Gospel, and human nature kicks in. Remember God works on a timeline different from ours, He draws people, we sometimes try and take the shortcut of driving others to do what we think is right. All the people I've known involved in being Wiccas have been fun and cool, the problem is they are all still people. And to quote the Muppets "People is people" all I'm saying is you give anyone power there are going to be abusers. This isn't said as a slam but as something to be aware of. That's all.Wiccans do not persecute other religions, nor would they.
Yes, but I don't believe people are all that different. A little taller maybe, a little longer lived (some) but again: peoples are people.Skellybones said:These are different times, tulc, christianity came into power awhile back...things were different then
Yep! You gotta look at what they do, not just what they say.Arikay said:there are always people that call themselves one thing and then do another.
Or as Jesus said:Yep! You gotta look at what they do, not just what they say.
Arikay said:I think wiccans would be much less inclined, but there are always people that call themselves one thing and then do another.
As a Wiccan I'm afraid I must admit I don't buy it either. Wicca has just as much potential to be usurp by the power hungry and corrupt as does any religion. We don't currently seem to have been infected with the disease of absolutism, but that possibilityy is always there.Nathan David said:I'm with you, Tulc. Power corrupts. I don't buy the "Wiccans wouldn't persecute because it's against our beliefs" any more than "Christians wouldn't murder because it's against our beliefs".
Which reminded me of something my dad used to say to me, usually right before he called the police to have me ejected from the house. Again. He would look at me with that little glint in his right eye, (the glass one as it happened) and he'd say in the gentle voice of his (like the sound of broken bones grinding together) He'd say "tulc (well not really because tulc isn't the name I was born with I sort of "earned" it after a long night running from the police, but that's another story, one I'm bound by a confidentiality agreement to never discuss on pain of a quick, but I am assured very painful, execution. But I digress.) Anyway he'd say "tulc (well not really because.....no wait I said all this! Never mind) ..."tulc If you can't be a good example, at least you can be a terrible warning." And I've tried to live by those words.Goddess grant that we may be wise enough to learn from the mistakes of others, and thus avoid becoming the next tyrant in turn.
Havoc said:Now we as Wiccans can hide our heads in the sand and cover ourselves with the blanket of "no true scotsman" fallacy like some religions we're all aware of, but that is a sure road to becoming what we most despise.
Judging by the quality of your descriptions, I'd say it's highly unlikely you've ever actually met a Wiccan. Or at least if you had you'd not likely paid any attention.Lifesaver said:It's a little too late for that, I'm affraid. I am yet to see a Wiccan who doesn't agree with "anyone who uses magic for evil purposes is not Wiccan".
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