Pornography doesn’t exploit.

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Pornography destroys the soul.....throwing out a car doesnt do anything to me spiritually. God says to get rid of anything evil. Porn is evil.

 

[MezzaMorta]

Pornography destroys the soul.....throwing out a car doesnt do anything to me spiritually. God says to get rid of anything evil. Porn is evil.

That is your personal opinion, you are entitled to it. How ever porn is legal in this nation.

What is more serious issue currently though is your husbands willful and according to you proud violation of the law of the United States of America. According to you he has committed multiple felonies and enjoys doing so. I would suggest you focus on that serious issue before porn.

 

[WhoeverLovesGod01]

Does porn exploit in the secular sense? Not really.

Does porn exploit in the Godly sense? Yes!

Porn thrives on sin, which causes death. Porn is an industry leading people to hell. Wether or not these people are willing, we should see them as victims of ignorance who need to know the true love of God.

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Does porn exploit in the secular sense? Not really.

Does porn exploit in the Godly sense? Yes!

Porn thrives on sin, which causes death. Porn is an industry leading people to hell. Wether or not these people are willing, we should see them as victims of ignorance who need to know the true love of God.

Your right. Porn to my husband and I is wrong, and usually to most christians who follow the bible. For the other people its okay. God has not opened their eyes yet. In the bible it says that when the people do not give themselves over to God and chose to ignore him he turns them over to their sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity and degrading their bodies. They are only blind to see truth.

 

[Athene]

Yes of course porn is exploitative, it exploits a males fear of sexual inadequacy, and it exploits his desire to be in control over women - note how in pornography the women are almost always subserviant.

 

[Jacey]

Hahaha, yeah right. Thats not theift. He sees them on the table he throws them out....hes doing a good thing for all of them.

Would you say the same thing if a coworker threw away your husbands bible he left sitting out?

 

[Jacey]

Yes of course porn is exploitative, it exploits a males fear of sexual inadequacy, and it exploits his desire to be in control over women - note how in pornography the women are almost always subserviant.

I don't agree, it goes back and forth.

But off camera, it is the actresses who are making the big bucks in porn.

Men only make significant money if they are involved in the production, own the company, etc (and there are women who own studios and direct successfully like Jill Kelly)

 

[Bianca87]

Loves, if you say your husband doesn't lust and so does he, we will have to believe that, what do we know?
but still, if he takes other people's property to destroy it, he's committing a felony. he does it because he thinks those magazines are "evil", but still this doesn't make him in the right. this is the principle of terrorism.
islamic terrorists destroyed the twin towers, london's tube etc because the think western civilization is evil.
ecoterrorists destroy mcdonalds because they think they are evil.
communist terrorist blow off banks because they think they are evil. yady, yady, yady...
having a personal belief doesn't give you the right to push it on others by any illegal act.
you live in a society that has is shades and contradictions and if you can't deal with what doesn't match with your personal beliefs, i'm sorry, but this is your problem. A felony is a felony, no matter its reasons.

mezzamorta, where does your name come from?

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Would you say the same thing if a coworker threw away your husbands bible he left sitting out?

Porn isnt wrong to get rid of. Its evil. The bible isnt, the bible doesnt have anything in it that will hurt you.

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Yes of course porn is exploitative, it exploits a males fear of sexual inadequacy, and it exploits his desire to be in control over women - note how in pornography the women are almost always subserviant.

AMEN

 

[LovesEnduringPromise]

Porn is disgusting.....why do you go on living life looking at it, when you could be gone tommorrow and have to face the God that created you....what would you do then...there is no turning back.

 

[Jacey]

Porn isnt wrong to get rid of. Its evil. The bible isnt, the bible doesnt have anything in it that will hurt you.

There are so many things wrong with this statement........so I'll just repeat what I said earlier, you are so adorable

 

[Athene]

I don't agree, it goes back and forth.

But off camera, it is the actresses who are making the big bucks in porn.

Men only make significant money if they are involved in the production, own the company, etc (and there are women who own studios and direct successfully like Jill Kelly)

Not the men who appear in the videos but the men sitting in front of the TV's and computers watching this stuff. In other words the male consumer.


These men are becoming sexually dead to real life flesh and blood women with real breasts, who have pubic hair and who menstruate. Their wives and girlfriends are having to resort to drastic means to keep their men interested in them. A few decades ago it was enough to just be naked but now women can't have any kind of physical imperfection, they have to be lean as whippets, toned, tanned, have big breasts which defy gravity by not sagging and absolutely no pubic hair or any body hair other then that which grows on top of her head.

 

[MezzaMorta]

LovesEnduringPromise, just asked a friend of mine who is 2nd year law school. What your husband has been doing can get him up to 1 year in jail and 250,000$ fine + be fined up to 500X the value of the property and other expenses in civil court.

You might want to stop his criminal behavior for the sake of your family.

 

[OdwinOddball]

Porn isnt wrong to get rid of. Its evil. The bible isnt, the bible doesnt have anything in it that will hurt you.

No, the porn in question is someone else's property, which your husband steals, and quite possibly vandalizes in the process by putting it in a destructive environment(the trash).

There is a difference between my statement and yours. It is a fact that taking someone else property is a crime, thus it is true that your husband being guilty of this crime is a criminal.

Your statement is all opinion however, and is not true for all. In my opinion the Bible is evil because it is often used to turn normal potentially intelligent humans into mindless slaves for a 2000 year old patriarchal system that teaches self hate and disgust with their fellow humans. These are our opinions, they are not fact for anyone but ourselves. This is an important lesson you need to learn before someone takes serious offense to your husbands actions.

You are welcome to hold whatever opinions & beliefs you want. But as soon as you start to enforce those beliefs on others you become an oppressor and someone that is dangerous to our continued well being as a society. You are not good people, you are criminals, convicted by your own words.

 

[Jacey]

These men are becoming sexually dead to real life flesh and blood women with real breasts, who have pubic hair and who menstruate. Their wives and girlfriends are having to resort to drastic means to keep their men interested in them. A few decades ago it was enough to just be naked but now women can't have any kind of physical imperfection, they have to be lean as whippets, toned, tanned, have big breasts which defy gravity by not sagging and absolutely no pubic hair or any body hair other then that which grows on top of her head.

I absolutely disagree with this.

FYI, I dont like the physically perfect women who look like stick figures.

 

[MezzaMorta]

who have pubic hair

Not the ones I've encountered

who menstruate.

God bless Marijuana

they have to be lean as whippets, toned, tanned, have big breasts which defy gravity by not sagging and absolutely no pubic hair or any body hair other then that which grows on top of her head.

And this is a bad thing?

Back in the Middle Ages women who were pale and overweight were considered attractive, so women would have to advoide any sunlight and eat high amounts of fat.... women have been going to extrem measures since the beginning of time to please men's view of attractive. Nothing new.

 

[Velo Princesse]

Here's what I am hearing the anti-porn crowd saying: Women are helpless bubbleheads. They can't take care of themselves, can't make independent decisions that don't involve coercion by lecherous males, consistently fall under the spell of the aforementioned lecherous males, are too naive and stupid to understand what they're getting into, and are too cowardly to exit stage left if they don't like the situation.

In other words, empty-headed, big-boobed babies who must be constantly protected from the Big Bad Wolf.

I made an argument similar to this during a discussion with my sister regarding why I, as a feminist, do not take issue with stripping. You said it better than I did... too bad she isn't on the forums.

That is theft and willful destruction of private property. He has committed a felony, a crime not only against the United States of America, but as well as a crime against God.

Your husband is a criminal if what you say is true.

Throwing away magazines is not a felony. It's petty theft at the absolute worst. However, you make a good point. I vaguely remember the Bible saying in it that you should following the laws of the land. So, if I remember correctly, every time her husband does that he is sinning against God. It seems he would be better off working out HIS OWN salvation with fear and trembling and leaving his coworkers to work out theirs.

There are so many things wrong with this statement........so I'll just repeat what I said earlier, you are so adorable

Promise is 20 years old and, according to her CF homepage, has only been married 6 months. We should all just get off her back and accept her naivety for what it is. She'll figure it out eventually.

 

[MezzaMorta]

Throwing away magazines is not a felony. It's petty theft at the absolute worst. However, you make a good point. I vaguely remember the Bible saying in it that you should following the laws of the land. So, if I remember correctly, every time her husband does that he is sinning against God. It seems he would be better off working out HIS OWN salvation with fear and trembling and leaving his coworkers to work out theirs.

Thief is simply stealing, stealing with the intent to destroy (willful destruction of property) is a felony. Two misdemeanors committed as part of one conspiracy is upgraded to a class D felony. Up to 1 years in jail, 250,000$ maximum fine and you can get taken to the cleaners in civil court.

 

[OdwinOddball]

Not the men who appear in the videos but the men sitting in front of the TV's and computers watching this stuff. In other words the male consumer.


These men are becoming sexually dead to real life flesh and blood women with real breasts, who have pubic hair and who menstruate. Their wives and girlfriends are having to resort to drastic means to keep their men interested in them. A few decades ago it was enough to just be naked but now women can't have any kind of physical imperfection, they have to be lean as whippets, toned, tanned, have big breasts which defy gravity by not sagging and absolutely no pubic hair or any body hair other then that which grows on top of her head.

This black and white mentality, where something is either entirely good or entirely bad, is getting very old. The world is NOT black and white. Are there those out there that abuse pornography, yes. There are also those that abuse alcohol, caffeine, prescription medicines, cars, their spouses, their children, their own bodies, etc. Any activity when taken to the extreme can be unhealthy. But that very same action in moderation can often be beneficial to the person.

You have a prohibition type attitude. "It can be bad so lets just get rid of it entirely". Firstly, thats extremely insulting to those of us that enjoy sexual materials, often times with our respective spouses. But more importantly, we know from experience that prohibition does not work. We saw its effects with the rise of the Mafia during the original prohibition, and we see it today in the continued dominance of illegal drugs in our world. Frankly, its quite similar in the world of sex. The traditional nudity taboos are what caused the Porn business to thrive to begin with. If people weren't constantly told that sex was dirty, that the human body was something to hide away from the world, that seeing a breast was going to turn them into a mindless rapist, the porn industry wouldn't be even a shadow of what it is today.

You don't like porn? You have two very simple solutions.

1. Don't watch it, read it, or buy it.
2. Grow the hell up and stop being disgusted with the very bodies and natural instincts you claim your god gave you. The sooner you stop turning sex into forbidden fruit, the sooner it stops being a "problem" in our society.

Perhaps the most important thing about this whole topic though, is it highlights one of the biggest problems in our country today. The inability of the religious contingent to mind their own business and leave other peoples private lives private.