Originally posted by John MacNeil Their simpleton view of population growth is just one more example of their refusal to accept reality when the evidence is contrary to their conjectured beliefs. Anyone who can do even minimal math, or operate a simple calculator, can determine from current human population it's probable and expected expansion and an approximate timeframe for the beginning of human population on this planet.
And anyone who can look at the birth and death records in recorded history knows that such a calculation isn't valid. The geometric extrapolation used simply doesn't work because there were more population checks in place in the past.
Also, all you have to do is look at all the other species on the planet. Why aren't they experiencing the same population growth of humans? Even in areas sheltered from humans, this doesn't happen. You can count the number of offspring born, tally the number that die prior to maturity, and see that population numbers stay constant for a given environment.
The evolutionists don't represent science. They are a cult. They try and use disparate observances of natural selection to quantify their theory of evolution without ever qualifying that theory. Their raison d'etre is, and always has been, to be a foil for religion.
A cult? ROFL!! Well, you have to have some way to get rid of all that data supporting evolution and refuting creationism. Claiming the whole thing is an anti-religion conspiracy is one way to do that. Won't stand up to scrutiny, of course, but it does provide amusement to us.
Tell us John, if evolution always has been a foil for religion, then why do we have this in the literature?
"To my mind it accords better with what we know of the laws impressed on matter by the Creator, that the production and extinction of the past and present inhabitants of the world should have been due to secondary causes, like those determining the birth and death of the individual." Origin pg. 449.
"I trust that the veneration due to the Old Testament is not impaired by the acertaining that the Mosaic is not an original but a compiled cosmology. Its glory is, that while its materials were the earlier property of the race, they were in this record purged of polythism and Nature-worship, and impregnated with ideas which we suppose the world will never outgrow. For its fundamental note is, the declaration of one God, maker of heaven and earth, and of all things, visible and invisible, -- a declaration which, if physical science is unable to establish, it is equally unable to overthrow." Asa Gray, Natural Science and Religion: Two Lectures Delivered to the Theological School of Yale College, 1880, pg 9. Asa Gray, of course, was one of the earliest Darwinists.
"Christians should look on evolution simply as the method by which God works." James McCosh, theologian and President of Princeton, The Religious Aspects of Evolution, 2d ed. 1890, pg 68.
The human population on this planet can be traced back to a certain time period in which there is a clear demarcation between species
Documentation, please. I already gave the documentation that there is a gradation between H. erectus and H. sapiens, citing the individual fossils of this transition. And the transition covered at least 100,000 years. JohnR7 tried this, but his mistake was in thinking our direct ancestors were H. neandertals instead of H. erectus.
such as this site for Woolly Mammoth's and Giant Irish Elk;
www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/pin/pinpleist...our/link=/headline_universe/woolly_rhino.html
You site says "There are no more woolly rhinos alive today. They became extinct about 10,000 years ago." Where is that mention of a "sudden demarcation"?
The only way for the massive amounts of sediment to be deposited in a rapid period which would keep the Woolly Rhinoceros from rotting is through a gigantic flood and a relatively rapid run-off after the flood.
A local flood would have done just fine.
In the time when all those animal species went extinct is the same time period when all the Neanderthal type of hominids went extinct, including the Skhul V, the Shanidar 1, the Le Moustier, and even all those Homos that were alive, including the Homo Erectus, which was alive when the demarcation occurred and so couldn't be an evolutionary step to Cro-Magnon, as this PBS story proves;
The mammoth and wooly rhinocerus went extinct 10,000 years ago while neandetals went extinct 20,000 years earlier. Not exactly the "same time". The H. erectus was in Java and was alive about 27,000 years ago.
But there is nothing wrong with an ancestor living alongside a descendent. Did your grandmother have to die on the day of your birth? The fossils show that H. erectus was the ancestor of both H. neandertalis and H. sapiens.
John, you have taken several websites, none of which support your position of drastic demarcation 30,000 years ago, and tried to pretend they do. But since we can go to the websites and see what they say for ourselves, I don't understand what you hope to accomplish by this.
