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Seeing that there are a plethora of differing Christian denominations, sects and teachings, the reality of that statement is null and void.

I get the feeling that anyone who says anything that is contrary to what your vain imagination has come up with is going to be wrong and their statements "null and void".
 
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This is a very short-sighted response indeed!

Perhaps this wonderful geneticist will discover a preventative treatment for some horrible disease - and that may be entirely by God's design.

Sometimes the best witnesses to God are the ones who go out and fulfill their God-given passions.
 
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Why am I not surprised that you would applaud his march to destruction?

You have traded the truth of scripture for the comfort of human adoration.
You're being a bit over dramatic and over the top. Gay couples are having sex as we speak. The sky isn't falling, and you'll be alright.

So give it a rest, would ya?
 
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I didn't say God would punish him for the work he does. Any more than God rewards for the work one does.

His judgment is ENTIRELY predicated upon his acceptance or not of Jesus Christ as his savior. That's it. Period. End of the matter. I defy you to show me ANYTHING in scripture that says differently.

It starts and it ends with Jesus Christ. Works do not get you eternal life, faith in Jesus Christ and Him alone is what gets you eternal life. Works without faith is DEAD. That's what the scriptures say.
 
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You're being a bit over dramatic and over the top. Gay couples are having sex as we speak. The sky isn't falling, and you'll be alright.

So give it a rest, would ya?

There's a fox in the hen house.

I don't expect non-Christians to act like Christians. That would just be absurd. I do however expect that someone who takes the name of Jesus Christ upon their lips would at least make an effort to walk as He walked. Not perfectly, but everything I've read coming from Chalice has been completely opposed to what the scriptures say.
 
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Seeing that there are a plethora of differing Christian denominations, sects and teachings, the reality of that statement is null and void.
I get the feeling that anyone who says anything that is contrary to what your vain imagination has come up with is going to be wrong and their statements "null and void".
Apparently, my remarks regarding a statement, has opened the gates for mischaracterizations and personal insults hurled my way.


I'll try this another way.

If that's the case, then how do you account for the plethora of differing Christian denominations, sects and teachings?
 
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But responding to the call of Jesus Christ is a personal thing for everyone.

As much as you depserately wish it to be true, it is not subject to your personal interpretation.
 
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Apparently, my remarks regarding a statement, has opened the gates for mischaracterizations and personal insults hurled my way.

Your remarks across several exchanges make it very clear that you are intent on herding people into saying what you want to hear. Until you hear what you want to hear you don't seem ready to give up.

If that's the case, then how do you account for the plethora of differing Christian denominations, sects and teachings?
The Bible speaks of this as well -

 
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Why am I not surprised that you would applaud his march to destruction?

You have traded the truth of scripture for the comfort of human adoration.
And you put down someone because your religion told you to do so, shame on you.
 
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But responding to the call of Jesus Christ is a personal thing for everyone.

As much as you depserately wish it to be true, it is not subject to your personal interpretation.

That is true, it is a personal decision.

But tell me this, what is the result of a personal decision to deny Jesus Christ?
 
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There's a fox in the hen house.
Would you please stop being so paranoid and defensive? No one here is on a secret mission to snatch souls and eat babies. No one here has a secret agenda to convert straights to gays. No one here is out to get you. All we're doing here is discussing things and hashing them out. So stop trying to mind read and assign sinister ploys to everyone. It ruins an otherwise robust discussion when you do that.
 
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And you put down someone because your religion told you to do so, shame on you.

It's called speaking the truth in love. I suppose I could offer to counsel him about it for a few months, but I find the direct approach saves everyone's time.

By the way it isn't "putting him down". If you were on fire and I tackled you to the ground and beat the flames out would you be mad because I broke a rib in the process? Or grateful that you weren't cooking?
 
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That is true, it is a personal decision.

But tell me this, what is the result of a personal decision to deny Jesus Christ?
How is finding something impossible to believe the same as denying it?
 
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The fox in the hen house I was referring to was the darkness that Satan has settled on this guys mind. It had nothing to do with this discussion thread in and of itself.
 
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You are telling someone not to be who they are to the very fiber of their being you tell him that he chooses to be who he is which is most certainly not the case.
 
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How is finding something impossible to believe the same as denying it?

What does that have to do with the result of denying Jesus Christ? Since that's the discussion this was a part of...

To answer the question God has given the proof it's up to you to look at it with an open mind. When I finally did it became impossible to deny.
 
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