Pope is anti-Christ?

[light.liberal.luke]

Do any protestant believe that the Pope is the anti-Christ?
What Biblical proof do you have?

 

[miamited]

hi Luke,

No, I don't think a pope will be the Antichrist. I'm more inclined to see the catholic organization as the harlot on the beast.drunk with the blood of the saints.

God bless you
In Christ, Ted

 

[1watchman]

I am inclined to agree, Ted, though I don't think it is profitable to speculate when Scripture is otherwise silent. God will reveal the man in due time. As some believers think, I also think the political beast may be living today, and getting close to being set forth as the world leader. He, of course, does not know he will be that one, but God will raise up one like He did with Pharoah in Egypt.

- 1 Watchman

 

[Episaw]

One speculation is that the anti-Christ is a homosexual. Daniel 11:37 gives us clues as to this.

 

[miamited]

Hi Episaw,

While that may well be true, that of itself will be a difficult issue by which we may discern who he is when the time comes. Of course, the same passage might also instruct us that this one to come against Christ will be strictly business with no desire for relations with women. He'll be a single man and quite satisfied with that because his desire and his drive and his goal will be great and powerful leadership.

God bless you.
In Christ, Ted

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

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[phoenixdem]

Do any protestant believe that the Pope is the anti-Christ?
What Biblical proof do you have?

I think the identify of the antichrist will be hidden until after the Church is removed from the Earth. Any speculation is useless. Many people thought that Ronnie Reagan was the antichrist because his name added up to 666. That is like a self-proclaimed prophet of God who announces doomsday is next month.

 

[Schmurtis]

maybe everyone in here should read their Bible in context a little more. The anti christ isn't a single person! the anti christ is a representation of any who opposes Christ.

 

[tyronem]

Unlikely, however the Catholic church has become increasingly liberal in that they are starting to say we all pray to the same God if you are a Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc, totally compromising what is taught in the Bible. But that is hardly surprising as they have taught evolution as fact for a long time now when it is not.

 

[phoenixdem]

maybe everyone in here should read their Bible in context a little more. The anti christ isn't a single person! the anti christ is a representation of any who opposes Christ.

I suspect that people here read the Holy Bible and other literature about the end times than you give them credit for. Your theory on this matter is a partial truth.

I have even heard one television preacher/teacher say that the Antichrist is a political organization. Even that makes more sense.

You may be interested in these verses,

ANTICHRIST​

1Jo. 2:18 as ye have heard that​

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a shall come, even [G500]
1Jo. 2:22 is a, that denieth the Father and the Son. [G500]
1Jo. 4: 3 this is that spirit of a, whereof ye have [G500]
2Jo. 1: 7 in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an a. [G500]​

ANTICHRISTS​

1Jo. 2:18 are there many a; whereby we know that

 

[General Mung Beans]

Unlikely, however the Catholic church has become increasingly liberal in that they are starting to say we all pray to the same God if you are a Muslim, Christian, Hindu etc, totally compromising what is taught in the Bible. But that is hardly surprising as they have taught evolution as fact for a long time now when it is not.

It is still far more conservative than most liberal Protestant denominations.

 

[StartedAtEly]

maybe everyone in here should read their Bible in context a little more. The anti christ isn't a single person! the anti christ is a representation of any who opposes Christ.

Well, there is antichrists (plural), THE antichrist, and the spirit of the antichrist

 

[light.liberal.luke]

hi Luke,

No, I don't think a pope will be the Antichrist. I'm more inclined to see the catholic organization as the harlot on the beast.drunk with the blood of the saints.

God bless you
In Christ, Ted

You don't believe that Catholic Church was put in place by Jesus?

The Catholic Church is the TRUE Church and cannot be nor is the "harlot."

 

[ns7]

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how true... lol

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

One speculation is that the anti-Christ is a homosexual. Daniel 11:37 gives us clues as to this.

Interesting.
I have never looked at it that way before

Search for 'Genesis 1:1' in the version

Rotherham) Daniel 11:37 and for the god of his fathers will he have no regard, nor for the delight of women, nor for any god will he have regard,--for against all will he magnify himself.

Rotherham) 2 Thessalonians 2:4 The one who opposeth and exalteth himself on high against every one called God, or an object of worship; so that he, within the sanctuary of God, shall take his seat, showeth himself forth, that he is, God:--

 

[Hentenza]

You don't believe that Catholic Church was put in place by Jesus?

No. Not even the name is used correctly given that katholithos is an adjective not a noun.

The Catholic Church is the TRUE Church and cannot be nor is the "harlot."

The EO will probably disagree with you.

 

[Hentenza]

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The historical discussion of the antichrist is permitted. What is not permitted is the accusation of antichrist as the means of flaming. Luther and several other reformers did believe that the office of the pope could be the office used by the antichrist or the false prophet. As long as the discussion remains within the historical parameters then it is a valid line of discussion.

 

[light.liberal.luke]

No. Not even the name is used correctly given that katholithos is an adjective not a noun.

How isn't the name used correctly? Katholithos is Greek for universal. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church. It is the only Church on Earth that can be found in every country. 1 in every 7 people in the world is Catholic.

The EO will probably disagree with you.

The Eastern Orthodox might have disagreed a while back, but there is an initiative between us and them to bring them back into the Church and they support it. All of their beliefs are the same as ours.

Why else, in your opinion, isn't the Catholic Church the Church that Christ established?

 

[Hentenza]

How isn't the name used correctly? Katholithos is Greek for universal. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church. It is the only Church on Earth that can be found in every country. 1 in every 7 people in the world is Catholic.

The ad populum fallacy does not help your case. Katholithos means according to the whole, universal. It does not mean one denomination but the aggregate of all believers.

The "C"atholic church, as an individual church, adopted katholithos as their name. The usage of the word in ancient Greek is as an adjective not as a noun.

The Eastern Orthodox might have disagreed a while back, but there is an initiative between us and them to bring them back into the Church and they support it. All of their beliefs are the same as ours.

Please do some reading before putting forward dogmatic statements. The EO will not recognize the superiority of the RC office of pope.

Secondly, there are many beliefs that stand in contrast between the two. Examples are transubstantiation, the filoque, the office of pope, etc.

Why else, in your opinion, isn't the Catholic Church the Church that Christ established?

All of the NT churches were independent churches governed by a plurality of elders. The office of bishop (overseer) in charge of more than one physical church developed progressively and is not inherent of the ancient church. The church of Rome did not wrestle relative supremacy (vs. positional which the church of Rome had given its location in the capital of the Roman empire) until after the edict of Milan in the 4th century.

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

No. Not even the name is used correctly given that katholithos is an adjective not a noun.

The EO will probably disagree with you.

How isn't the name used correctly? Katholithos is Greek for universal. The Catholic Church is the Universal Church. It is the only Church on Earth that can be found in every country. 1 in every 7 people in the world is Catholic.

The Eastern Orthodox might have disagreed a while back, but there is an initiative between us and them to bring them back into the Church and they support it. All of their beliefs are the same as ours.

Why else, in your opinion, isn't the Catholic Church the Church that Christ established?

From what I gather, it is the EOC trying to bring the RCC back to Orthodoxy

http://www.christianforums.com/t7526023/#post57841309
Terms of union with Roman Catholics (2)

The Pope would renounce his Roman Catholicism and become Orthodox. There is nothing that would cause the Church as a whole to join with him.

There are such things as uniate churches, which are basically Byzantine Catholic churches and the like, but they are no longer Orthodox.